Beatrix Puella, Emanuel, Eusebius
Dialogue (Latin—colloquium, collocutio, sermo) is so called
from διαλέγεως, in which sort of composition Plato was the
first to delight. In this first dialogue or discourse (sermone)
there are laid down five duties, which should be performed carefully
in the morning by youths and boys, viz. to rise betimes
(because early morning is the friend to studies), to dress, to comb
the hair, to wash, to pray.
Beat. May Jesus Christ awake you from the sleep of all
vice. O you boys, are you ever going to wake
up to-day?
Euseb. I don’t know what has fallen on my eyes. I
seem to have them full of sand.
Beat. That is always your morning song—quite an old
one. I shall open both the wooden and the
glass windows, so that the morning shall strike
brightly on your eyes from both. Get up!
Get up!
Euseb. Is it already morning?
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Beat. It is nearer mid-day than the dawn. Emanuel,
do you want another shirt?
Eman. I don’t now need anything. This is clean
enough. I will take another to-morrow.
Please give me my stomacher.
Beat. Which? The single thickness or the double
thickness?
Eman. Which you like. I don’t mind. Give me the
single thickness so that I may be less heavy
for playing ball (pila) to-day.
Beat. This is always your custom. You think of your
play before your school-work.
Eman. What do you say, you stupid! When school
itself is called play (ludus).
Beat. I don’t understand your playing with grammar
and logic (grammaticationes et sophismata).
Eman. Give me the leathern shoe-straps.
Beat. They are torn to pieces. Take the silken ones as
your schoolmaster has ordered. What now?
Will you have the breeches and long stockings
as it is summer?
Eman. No, indeed. Give me only the long stockings.
Please, fasten them for me.
Beat. What! Have you arms of hay or of butter?
Eman. No, indeed. They are sewn together with
threads. Alas! what straps (i.e. points)
have you given me, without supports and all
torn!
Beat. Don’t you remember that yesterday at dice-playing
you lost the others altogether?
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Eman. How do you know?
Beat. I observed you through a chink in the door as you
were playing with Guzmanulus.
Eman. Oh! I beg that you won’t tell the teacher.
Beat. No, but I will tell him if ever you call me “ugly”
again, as you are accustomed to do.
Eman. What if I call you greedy?
Beat. Call me what you will, but not ugly.
Eman. Give me my shoes.
Beat. Which? Those with the long straps (i.e.
sandals)?
Eman. Those covered against the mud.
Beat. Against the dry mud, which they call dust. But
thou doest well, for on the open road the strap
gets broken and the buckle lost.
Eman. Put them on, I beg.
Beat. Do it yourself.
Eman. I cannot bend myself.
Beat. You could easily bend, but your laziness makes it
difficult, or have you swallowed a sword as the
mountebank did four days ago? Are you
now so delicate? What will happen to you as
you grow up?
Eman. Tie a double knot—for it is more elegant.
Beat. Certainly not, for then the knot would be loosened
at that point and the shoe would fall from
your foot. It is better either to have a double
drawing tight or one knot and one loop. Take
your tunic with long sleeves and your woven
girdle.
Eman. No, certainly not that, but the leathern hunting
girdle.
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Beat. Your mother forbids that; do you wish to have
everything according to your own caprice?
And yesterday you broke the pin of the clasp!
Eman. I could not otherwise unbuckle it. Then give
me that red one made of linen cloth.
Beat. Take it, put your French girdle on. Comb your
head first with the thinner, then with the
thicker teeth, place your cap on your head, so
as not to throw it to the back of your head, as
is your custom, or on to your forehead down
to your eyes.
Eman. Let us at last go out.
Beat. What, without having washed your hands and
face!
Eman. With your worrying curiosity you would have
already plagued a bull to death, let alone a
man. You think you are clothing not a boy,
but a bride.
Beat. Eusebius, bring a wash-basin and a pitcher.
Raise it to a fair height; let the water drop
out rather than pour it from the stopple.
Wash thoroughly that dirt from the joints of
the fingers. Cleanse the mouth and use water
for gargling. Rub the eyelids and eyebrows,
then the glands of the neck under the ears
vigorously. Then take a cloth and dry yourself.
Immortal God! that it should be necessary
to admonish you as to all these things,
one by one, and that you should do nothing of
your own thought.
Eman. Ah! you are too much of a boss and too rude!
Beat. And you are too shrewd and pretty a boy. Come,
give me a kiss. Kneel down before this image
of our Saviour and say the Lord’s Prayer and
the other prayers, as you are accustomed,
before you step out of your bedroom. Take
care, my Emanuel, that you think of nothing
else while you are praying. Stay a moment,
hang this little handkerchief on your girdle, so
that you can blow and clean your nose.
Eman. Am I now sufficiently prepared, in your opinion?
Beat. You are.
Eman. Then not in my opinion since at last I am in yours.
I will dare make a wager that I have taken up
a whole hour in dressing.
Beat. Well, what even if you had taken two? Where
would you have gone if you hadn’t? What
were you going to do? I suppose to dig or to
plough?
Eman. As if there were a lack of something to do.
Beat. Oh, the great man! so keenly occupied in doing
nothing.
Eman. Won’t you go away, you girl sophist? Go, or
I’ll shy this shoe at you or tear the veil off
your head.
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Puer, Mater, Pater—Boy, Mother, Father
In this dialogue there are three parts: the first contains the
mutual salutations expressed in the morning when the little
charms of early childhood are skilfully displayed. The second
part contains the sport of a boy with a dog. The third gives a
conversation with this boy concerning the school, the opportunity
for which arises from the incident with the little dog.
Boy. Hail, my father! hail, my mother dear (salve mea
matercula)! I wish that this may be a happy
day for you, my little brothers (germanuli).
May Christ be propitious to you, my little
sisters!
Father. My son, may God guard you and lead you to
great goodness (ingentes virtutes).
Mother. May Christ preserve you, my light. What are
you doing, my darling? How are you?
How did you rest last night?
Boy. I am very well and slept peacefully.
Mother. Thanks be to Christ! May He grant that this
may be constantly so!
Boy. In the middle of the night I was roused up with a
pain in the head.
Mother. It grieves me sorely to hear that (me perditam
et miserrimam)! What do you say? In
what part of the head?
Boy. In the forehead.
Mother. For how long?
Boy. Scarcely the eighth of an hour. Afterwards I fell
asleep again, nor did I feel anything further
of it.
Mother. Now I breathe again; for you took away my
breath.
Boy. All good to you! Little Isabel, prepare my breakfast.
Ruscio, Ruscio, come here, jolly little
dog! See how he fawns with his tail and
how he raises himself on his hind legs. What
are you doing? How are you? Hullo, you,
bring a bit or two of bread which we may give
him, then you will see some clever sport.
Won’t you eat? Haven’t you had anything
to-day? Clearly there is more intelligence in
that dog than in that crass mule-driver.
Father. My Tulliolus, I should like to have a talk with
you soon.
Boy. Why, my father? For nothing more delightful
could happen to me than to listen to you.
Father. Is thy Ruscio here an animal or a man?
Boy. An animal, as I think.
Father. What have you in you, why you should be a
man and not he? You eat, drink, sleep,
walk, run, play. So he does all these things
also.
Boy. But I am a man.
Father. How do you know this? What have you now,
more than a dog? But there is this difference
that he cannot become a man. You
can, if you will.
Boy. I beg of you, my father, bring this about as soon
as possible.
Father. It will be done if you go where animals go, to
come back men.
Boy. I will go, father, with all the pleasure in the
world! But where is it?
Father. In the school.
Boy. There is no delay in me for such a great matter.
Father. Nor in me. Isabel, dear, do you hear, give
him his breakfast in this little satchel.
Isabel. What shall it be?
Father. A piece of bread and butter, and dry figs, or
pressed, not dried, grapes, as an additional dish—for
fresh grapes besmear the fingers of boys
and they spoil their clothes—unless he should
prefer a few cherries, or golden and long plums.
Hang the satchel on his little arm, so that it
shall not fall off.
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Pater, Puer, Propinquus, Philoponus Ludimagister—Father,
Boy, Relative, Philoponus the Schoolmaster
Philoponus.—This name, so worthy of a teacher, has been
rightly and wisely bestowed by the author. For the true
teacher ought to be φιλόπονος, that is, φίλος τοῦ πονοῦ, a lover
of labour, and by his diligence and assiduity to give satisfaction
to his pupils. But Philoponus is, moreover, the proper name of
the Greek interpreter of Aristotle.
Consultation as to a Teacher
Father. Make the holy sign of the cross.
Son. Lead us ignorant ones, O most wise Jesus Christ,
Thou most powerful, lead us most weak!
Father. Inform me, I beg, thou who art most versed in
the study of letters, who in this school is the
best teacher of boys?
Prop. The most learned is a certain Varro; but the most
industrious and the most upright is Philoponus,
whose erudition, moreover, is not to be
despised. Varro has the best frequented
school, and in his house he has a numerous
flock of boarders. Philoponus does not seem
to delight in numbers, but is content with
fewer boys.
Father. I should prefer him. That must be he walking
into the hall of the school. Son, this is, as it
were, the laboratory for the formation of men,
and he is the artist-educator. Christ be with
you, master! Uncover your head, my boy,
and bow your right knee, as you have been
taught. Now, stand up!
Philoponus. May your coming be a blessing to us all!
What may be your business?
Father. I bring you this boy of mine for you to make
of him a man from the beast.
Philoponus. This shall be my earnest endeavour. He
shall become a man from a beast, a fruitful
and good creature out of a useless one. Of
that have no doubt.
Father. What is the charge for your instruction?
Philoponus. If the boy makes good progress, it will be
little; if not, a good deal.
Father. That is acutely and wisely said, as is all you
say. We share the responsibility then; you,
to instruct zealously, I to recompense your
labour richly.
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Cirratus, Praetextatus, Titivillitium, Teresula (An Old
Woman, A Woman Seller of Vegetables)
The names of the interlocutors in this dialogue for the most
part signify something serious and ancient. Cirrati pueri were
those boys who wore their hair curled and crisped. Krausz Haar.
For the cirrus is an instrument devised for the curling of hair.
Nec matutini cirrata caterva magistri.
Flavam
Caesariem et madido torquentem cornua cirro.
Ten’ cirratorum centum dictata fuisse
Pro nihilo pendas?
Praetextatus puer is another way of referring to a noble or
patrician, for his outer garment was bordered with purple, and
thus worn by boys up to fourteen years of age, or as others say,
up to sixteen, when such an one assumed the toga virilis in the
Capitol. See Macrob. lib. i. Satur. cap. 6. Budae, in prior.
annot. ad l. fin. De senator. Alexand. lib. 2, cap. 25. Baysius,
de re vestiment. Sigonius, lib. 3, de judic. cap. 19. Papirius,
a certain Roman, was called praetextatus because in the
praetextata age he showed the height of prudence. See Macrob.
Titivillitium formerly was a word declaring nothing certain,
but just an exclamation, indicating extreme uncertainty. The
word was used by Plautus. See Proverb, Titivillitium.
Oluscularia, a woman selling vegetables. Λαχανοπῶλις.
Cirr. Does it seem to you to be time to go to school?
Praet. Certainly, it is time to go.
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Cirr. I don’t properly remember the way; I believe we
have to go through this next street.
Praet. How often have you already been to the school?
Cirr. Three or four times.
Praet. When did you first go?
Cirr. As I think, three or four days ago.
Praet. Well, now; isn’t that enough to enable you to
know the way?
Cirr. No, not if it were a hundred times of going.
Praet. Why, if I were to go once, never afterwards
should I miss the way. But you go, against
your will, and as you go, you stop and play.
You don’t look at the way, nor at the houses,
nor any signs which would show you afterwards
which way you should turn, or which
way you should follow. But I observe all
these points diligently, because I go gladly.
Cirr. This boy lives quite close to the school. Here,
you, Titivillitium, which is the way to your
house?
Tit. What do you want? Do you come from your
mother? My mother is not at home, nor
even my sister. Both have gone out to St.
Anne’s.
Cirr. What then is to be done?
Tit. Yesterday was dedication festival (encaenia). Today
some woman who sells cheese has invited
them to a meal at the house called “Thick
Milk” (lac coagulatum).
Cirr. And why haven’t you gone with them?
Tit. They have left me at home to keep house. They
have taken my little brother with them, but
they have promised me that they would bring
back something of what was left for me in a
basket.
Cirr. But why art thou then not remaining at home?
Tit. I shall return immediately, only I will now play
dice a little with the son of this cobbler. Will
you also come with us?
Cirr. We will go, please.
Praet. Certainly I shall not do so.
Cirr. Why not?
Praet. We don’t want to get a thrashing.
Cirr. Ah! I had not thought of that.
Tit. You won’t get thrashed.
Cirr. How do you know that?
Tit. Because your master lost his rod (ferula) to-day.
Cirr. Eh! by what means did you get to know that?
Tit. To-day we heard him from our house shouting out—and
it was for his ferula he was seeking.
Cirr. I beg of you, let us play for a short time.
Praet. Play you, if you will; but I shall go on to school
at once.
Cirr. I beg of you, don’t report me to the master. Say
that I am kept by my father at home.
Praet. Do you wish me to tell a lie?
Cirr. Why not, for a friend’s sake?
Praet. Because I have heard a preacher in a church
declare that liars are the sons of the devil, but
truth-tellers, sons of God.
Cirr. Of the devil, indeed! Get away! By the sign
of the holy cross, may our God free us from
our enemies!
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Praet. Thou canst not be freed to play when thou
oughtest to go and learn.
Cirr. Let us go. Farewell.
Tit. Oh, I say! these boys dare not stay and play a
moment because otherwise they would get
thrashed!
Praet. This boy is a waster and will become a bad man!
See how has he slipped away from us without
our having asked him which is the way to the
school? Let us call him back.
Cirr. Let him go his evil ways. I don’t wish him again
to invite me to play. We will inquire from
this old woman. Mother, do you know which
is the way to the school of Philoponus?
Old Woman. I have lived near this school for six years,
just opposite to it where my eldest son and
two daughters were born. You cross this
street (the Villa Rasa Street), then comes a
narrow lane, then the Dominus Veteranus Street.
Hence you turn to the right, then to the left,
there you must inquire, for the school is not
far from there.
Cirr. Ah! we cannot remember all that!
Old Woman. My little Teresa, lead these boys to the
school of Philoponus, for the mother of this
one here was she who gave us the thread for
combing and spinning.
Ter. What in the name of evil have you to do with
Philoponus? What sort of man is this
Philoponus? As if I knew him! Do you
speak of the man who mends shoes near the
Green Inn (cauponam viridem) or of the herald
in the Giant Street, who keeps horses on
hire?
Old Woman. This I know well, that you never know
those things which are wanted, but those
which have nothing to do with the matter in
hand. Slowest of girls, Philoponus is that
old schoolmaster, tall, short-sighted man,
opposite the house where we used to live.
Ter. Ah! now it comes back to my mind.
Old Woman. In returning, go across the market and
buy salad, radish, and cherries. Take with
you the little basket.
Cirr. Lead us also over the vegetable market.
Ter. This way is shorter.
Cirr. We don’t wish to go that way.
Ter. Why so?
Cirr. Because the dog in that street, belonging to the
baker, bit me once. We would rather go with
you to the market.
Ter. Returning I will make the journey through the
market (for we are not far from it) and I will
buy what I was told to buy, after I have left
you at the school.
Cirr. We desire to see how much you give for the
cherries.
Ter. We buy them at six farthings a pound; but what
is that to you?
Cirr. Because my sister ordered me this morning to
inquire. She particularly mentioned there is an
old woman in the market who sells vegetables.
If you buy of her, I know that she will sell
you at a less price than they will elsewhere,
and she will give us a few cherries or thyrsus
of lettuce, for her daughter formerly served
my mother and sister.
Ter. I hope that this roundabout way may not let you
in for some lashes.
Cirr. Not at all. For we shall have plenty of time.
Ter. Let us go. I get so little chance of walks, wretched
that I am, for my time is all taken up sitting
at home.
Praet. What do you do? Do you merely sit idly at
home?
Ter. Idly, indeed! Not at any rate that! I spin, I
gather (wool) into a ball, wind, weave. Do
you think our old woman would let me sit
idle? She curses feast-days, on which there
must be a stoppage of work.
Praet. Are not feast-days holy? How can she curse
what is holy? Does she wish to curse what
has been ordained as holy?
Ter. Do you think that I have learned geometry that
I should be able to explain these things to you?
Cirr. What do you mean by geometry?
Ter. I don’t know. We had a neighbour who was
called Geometria. She was always either in
church with priests, or the priests were with
her at her house. And so she was, as they
said, very wise.—But we have come into the
vegetable market. Where is now your old
woman?
Cirr. I was looking round about for her. But buy of
her only on the condition that she gives us
something as a present. Ah! great-aunt
(amita). This girl will buy cherries of you, if
you will give us some.
Vegetable Woman. We are given nothing; we have to
buy everything.
Cirr. That dirt which you have on your hands and
neck was not given to you, was it?
Vegetable Woman. Unless you take yourself off, you
impudent boy, your cheeks will feel some of this
dirt on them.
Cirr. How will my cheeks feel, when you have it on
your hands?
Vegetable Woman. Give those cherries back, you young
rogue.
Cirr. I am merely sampling, for I wish to buy.
Vegetable Woman. Then buy.
Cirr. Provided they have pleased me. How do you
sell them?
Vegetable Woman. A sesterce a pound.
Cirr. Ah! they are bitter, you old poisoner! You are
selling here cherries to people to choke them.
Ter. Let us go away to the school. For you will get
me involved in difficulties with your subtleties,
and you will detain me too long. Now, as I
think, my old woman is raging at home, on
account of my delay in returning. There is
the door. Knock at it.
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Praeceptor, Lusius, Aeschines, Pueri—Teacher,
Lusius, Aeschines, Boys
Lusius, so called from playing (ludendo).
Aeschines, proper name of the Greek orator, who shamelessly
declaimed against Demosthenes.
Cotta, proper name of a Roman citizen, so called from his
anger.
This dialogue contains a division of the letters into vowels
and consonants.
Praec. Take the A B C tablet in your left hand, and
this pointer in the right hand, so that you can
point out the letters one by one. Stand
upright; put your cap under your arm-pit.
Listen most attentively how I shall name these
letters. Look diligently how I move my
mouth. See that you return what I say immediately
in the same manner, when I ask for
it again. Attention (sis mecum)! Now you
have heard it. Follow me now as I say it
before you, letter by letter. Do you clearly
understand?
Lus. It seems to me I do, fairly well.
Letters—Syllables—Vowel—Speech
Praec. Every one of these signs is called a letter. Of
these, five are vowels, A, E, I, O, U. They
are in the Spanish oveia, which signifies sheep.
Remember that word! These with any letter
you like, or more than one, make up syllables.
Without a vowel there is no syllable and sometimes
the vowel itself is a syllable. Therefore
all the other letters are called consonants,
because they don’t constitute sounds by themselves
unless a vowel is joined to them. They
have some imperfect, maimed (mancum) sound,
e.g. b, c, d, g, which without e cannot be
sounded. Out of syllables we get words, and
from words connected speech, which all beasts
lack. And you would not be different
from the beasts, if you could not converse
properly. Be watchful and perform your work
diligently. Go out with your fellow-pupils
and learn what I have set.
Lus. We are not playing to-day.
Aesch. No, for it is a work-day. What, do you think
you have come here to play? This is not the
place for playing, but for study.
Lus. Why, then, is a school called ludus?
True Leisure
Aesch. It is indeed called ludus, but it is ludus literarius,
because here we must play with letters as elsewhere
with the ball, hoop, and dice. And I
have heard that in Greek it is called schola, as
it were a place of leisure, because it is true
ease and quiet of mind, when we spend our
life in studies. But we will learn thoroughly
what the teacher has bidden us, quite in soft
murmur, so that we don’t become a hindrance
to one another.
Lus. My uncle, who studied letters some time in Bologna,
has taught me that you better fix anything
you wish in the memory if you pronounce it
aloud. This is also confirmed by the authority
of one called Pliny—I don’t know who he was.
Aesch. If, then, any one should wish to learn his
formulae, he should go off into the garden or
into the churchyard. There he can shout
aloud as if he would rouse the dead.
Cotta. You boys, do you call this learning thoroughly?
I call it prattling and disputing! Up, now
go all of you to the teacher, as he commanded.
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Tulliolus, Corneliola, Lentulus, Scipio
This dialogue contains an account of different kinds of boys’
games; the names of the interlocutors are taken from appellations
of the Romans. Concerning which, see Valer. Maximus
and Sigonius.
Corn. Welcome home, Tulliolus, shall we have some
games?
Tull. Not just now.
Corn. What is there to prevent us playing?
Tull. We must go over again what the master set, and
commit it to memory, as he bade us.
Corn. What then?
Tull. You just look at this.
Corn. I say, what are those pictures? I believe they
are pictures of ants. Mother mine, Tulliolus
is bringing a lot of ants and gnats painted on
a writing-tablet.
Tull. Be quiet, you silly thing, they are letters.
Corn. What do you call this first one?
Tull. A.
Corn. Why is this first one rather than the next
called A?
Mother. Why art thou Corneliola and not Tulliolus?
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Corn. Because I am so called.
Mother. And it is just the same way with those letters.
But go and play now, my boy.
Tull. I am putting my tablet and pencil (style) down
here. If anybody disturbs them, he will be
beaten by mother. Won’t he, mammy? (mea
matercula.)
Mother. Yes, my boy.
Tull. Scipio, Lentulus! Come and play.
Sci. What shall we play at?
Tull. Let us play at nuts, at throwing them in holes.
Lent. I have only a few nuts and those squashed and
smelly.
Sci. Well then, we will play with the shells of nuts.
Tull. But what good would they be to me even if I
were to win twenty? There would be no
kernels in the nuts for me to eat.
Sci. Why, I don’t eat when I am playing. If I want to
eat, I go to the mater. Nut-shells are good
for making little houses to put ants into.
Lent. Let us play odd and even with little pins (lit.
small pins for a head-dress—acicula).
Tull. Let’s have dice instead.
Sci. Fetch them, Lentulus.
Lent. Here are the dice.
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Tull. How grubby and dirty they are. They are not
free from fluff. Nor are they polished. Cast!
Sci. For the first throw!
Tull. I am first. What are we playing?
Sci. We are playing for trousers buttons (astrigmenta—lit.
points).
Lent. I don’t want to lose mine, for if I did I should be
beaten at home by my tutor.
Tull. What are you willing to lose then, if you are
beaten?
Lent. Some good raps with the fingers on me.
Mother. What is that lying on the ground? You are
spoiling all your clothes and boots on the
dirtiest of the ground. Why don’t you first
sweep the floor and then sit down? Bring
the broom here!
Tull. What have we decided on?
Sci. One needle for each point in the game.
Tull. Certainly it should be two.
Lent. I have no needles. If you like I will deposit
cherry-stones instead of needles.
Tull. Get away. Let me and you play, Scipio.
Sci. I will risk it—to cast my needle on luck.
Tull. Give me the dice in my hand, so that I may cast
first. Look, I have won the stake.
Sci. You haven’t. For you were not playing then in
serious.
Tull. Whoever plays seriously? It is as if you spoke of
a white Moor.
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Sci. You may cavil as much as you like. At any rate
you are not going to have my nuts.
Tull. Come now, I will let you have the throw. Let
us play now for the stake, and may you have
good luck!
Sci. You are beaten.
Tull. Take it.
Lent. Let me have the dice.
Tull. Let’s stake all on this throw.
Lent. I don’t mind.
A Servant. To your meal, boys. Will you never make
an end of your games?
Tull. Now just as we are getting started, she talks of
stopping!
Corn. I am sick of this game. Let us play with the
two-coloured draughtsmen.
Tull. You paint for us squares on this surface with
charcoal and with white lime.
Sci. I prefer to go and have my supper to playing any
more, and I go with all my needles collared by
your fraud.
Tull. Don’t you remember that yesterday you plundered
Cethegus. “There is no one who can always
have luck in play.”
Corn. Please get the playing cards which you will
find on the left hand under the writing table.
Sci. Some other time. Now I haven’t time. If I
delay any longer, I fear that my teacher will
send me to bed, in his anger, without food.
You get the cards ready for to-morrow evening,
Corneliola.
Corn. If mother permits, it would be better to play
now when we have the chance.
Sci. It is better to go to eat when we are called.
Servant. And don’t you give me anything for looking
on?
Corn. We would give you something if you had acted
as umpire. You ought rather to give us
something, as things are, for having had the
enjoyment of our play.
Servant. You boys, then, when are you coming? The
meal-time is half over; soon we shall take
the meat away, and set the cheese and fruit
on the table.
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Nepotulus, Piso, Magister, Hypodidascalus
In this dialogue Vives treats of a banquet. The division into
five parts:—
Jentaculum
Prandium
Merenda
Coena
Comessatio |
} |
An enumeration of different kinds. |
| See Grap. lib. 2, cap. 3. |
He describes convivial disputations.
Nepotulus is a diminutive from nepos, used for one who
drinks.
Piso is a young nobleman.
Hypodidascalus, ὁ ὑπώ τὲ διδασκαλον, provisor, cantor.
In the beginning of this dialogue there are three αμφιβολίας or
ambiguities. The first is in the adverb lautè, the signification
of which is twofold, one proper, the other improper and metaphorical.
Nep. Are you bathed in luxury (vivitisne lautè?) living
here?
Piso. What do you mean by that? Do we wash ourselves
(an lavamur)? Every day, hands and
face, and indeed, frequently, for cleanliness of
body is conducive to health and to nurture.
Nep. That is not what I ask—but whether you get
food and drink to your mind?
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Piso. We don’t eat according to our desire, but according
to the call of the palate.
Nep. I ask, if you eat, as you wish.
Piso. Certainly, forsooth, as hunger dictates. Who
wishes to eat, eats; who does not wish,
abstains.
Nep. Do you go from the table hungry?
Piso. By no means sated. For this is not wise. For
it is the part of beasts, not men, to glut themselves.
They say that a certain wise king
never sat down to table without hunger, and
never stood up sated.
Nep. What do you eat, then?
Piso. What there is.
Nep. Oh! I was thinking that you eat what you hadn’t
got! But what is there, then?
Piso. Troublesome questioner! What they give us.
Nep. But what do they give you, then?
Piso. We have breakfast an hour and a half after we
have got up.
Nep. When do you get up?
Piso. Almost with the sun, for he is the leader of the
Muses and the Muses are gracious to the dawn.
Our early breakfast is a piece of coarse bread
and some butter or some fruit as the time of
the year supplies. For lunch, there are cooked
vegetables or pottage in pottage-vessels, and
meat with relishes. Sometimes turnips, sometimes
cabbages, starch-food, wheat-meal, or
rice. Then on fish-days, buttermilk from
butter which has been turned out in deep
dishes, with some cakes of bread, and a fresh
fish, if it can be bought fairly cheap in the
fish-market, or if not, a salt-fish, well soaked.
Then pease, or pulse, or lentils, or beans, or
lupines.
Nep. How much of these does each get?
Piso. Bread as much as he wishes; of viands as much
as is necessary not for satiety, but for nourishment.
For elaborate feasts, you must seek
elsewhere, not in the school, where the aim
is to form minds to the way of virtue.
Nep. What, then, do you drink?
Piso. Some drink fresh, clear water; others light beer;
some few, but only seldom, wine, well diluted.
The afternoon meal (merenda) or before-meal
consists of some bread and almonds or nuts,
dried figs and raisins; in summer, of pears,
apples, cherries, or plums.
But when we go into the country for the
sake of our minds (recreation), then we have
milk, either fresh or congealed, fresh cheese,
cream, horse-beans soaked in lye, vine-leaves,
and anything else which the country house
affords. The chief meal begins with a salad
with closely-cut bits, sprinkled with salt,
moistened with drops of olive-oil, and with
vinegar poured on it.
Nep. Can you have nut or turnip oil?
Piso. Ugh! the unsavoury and unhealthy stuff!
Then there is in a great vessel a concoction of
mutton broth with sauce, and to it, dried plums,
roots, or herbs as supplements, and at times a
most savoury pie.
Nep. What sort of sauces do you have?
Piso. The best and wisest of sauces, hunger. Besides,
on appointed week-days we get roasted meat—as
a rule, veal; in spring sometimes, some
young kid. As an after-dish a little bit of
radish and cheese, not old and decayed, but
fresh cheese, which is more nourishing than
the old, pears, peaches, and quinces. On the
days on which no meat may be eaten, we have
eggs instead of meat, either broiled, fried, or
boiled, either singly by themselves or mingled
in one pan with vinegar or oil, not so much
poured on as dropped in; sometimes a little
fish, and nuts follow on cheese.
Nep. How much does every one get.
Piso. Two eggs and two nuts.
Nep. What! do you never have a sleeping draught
after supper?
Piso. Pretty often.
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Nep. What do you have, I beg? for that is most delightful.
Piso. We prepare a banquet such as that of Syrus mentioned
by Terence, or of one of the lordly people
mentioned by Athenaeus or of the like, of which
the record has been handed down in history.
Do you think us swine or men? What
stomach would preserve its soundness of
health if after four meals it were to add a
drinking-bout? Observe you are in a school,
not in an eating-house. For they say there
is nothing more ruinous to health than to
drink immediately before going to bed.
Nep. May I be allowed to be present at meal-time?
Piso. Certainly. Only I must first beg permission from
the teacher, who will, I am sure, give it without
difficulty, as is usual with him.
To take you to the banquet, without the
master’s permission, would be ill breeding;
and he who should so bring you would draw
on himself from his fellow-disciples nothing
less than reproach and shame. Stop a
minute. Will you, sir, permit with your good
favour, that a certain boy known to me
should be present at our meal?
Praec. Certainly. There will be no harm in it.
Piso. Thank you. He whom thou seest there, who has
a napkin in place of a neck-cloth is the feast-master
of the dining-room (architriclinus) this
week—for here we have weekly feast-masters,
like kings.
Feast-Master. Lamia, what time is it?
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Lamia. I have not heard the hours since the third, being
intent on the composition of a letter. Florus
will know this better than I, for he has not
seen book or paper the whole of the afternoon.
Florus. This is friendly testimony, and if the teacher
were angry, it would have great weight. But
how couldst thou observe me, being immersed,
as thou sayest, in the composition of a letter?
Clearly ill-will has driven thee to telling a lie.
I rejoice, indeed, that my enemy is held to be
a liar. If after this he shall wish to say evil
of me, such statements will not be believed.
Feast-Master. Can I not then, elsewhere, get to know
as to the time? Anthrax, run across to St.
Peter’s and look at the time.
Anthrax. The pointer shows that it is now six o’clock.
Feast-Master. Six? Eh! boys, eh! Come, rouse yourselves;
throw your books aside, even as the stag
seeks a corner to hide his horns. Prepare the
table, cover it, place seats, napkins, round
and square plates, bread; fly, quicker than
the word. Let not our teacher complain of
our slowness. Bring beer, one of you;
another, draw water from the well and place
the cups. What is the meaning of this—bringing
them so unclean? Take them back into the
kitchen so that the maid may rub them clean
and wipe them thoroughly, whereby they may
be bright and shining.
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Piso. Never will you accomplish this, so long as we have
that monkey of a kitchen-maid. For she never
dares to rub determinedly so as to clean, for
she is afraid of her fingers. Nor does she rinse
things more than once and that with tepid
water.
Arch. Why don’t you report this to the teacher?
Piso. It would be better to ask the housekeeper
(famulam atriensem) for it is in her hands to
change the kitchen-maids. But there is the
teacher. Do you yourself wash these cups
out, and rub them with a fig or nettle-leaf, or
with sand and water, so that our schoolmaster
to-day shall have no cause for blame.
Praec. Is all ready? Is there anything to delay you?
Arch. Nothing at all.
Praec. So that afterwards between the courses we need
not have to make any break!
Feast-Master. Between the courses! Rather say the
course and that a meagre one.
Praec. What are you murmuring?
Feast-Master. I say that you should sit down, that it
is meal-time, and that the food will soon
get spoilt!
Praec. You boys, wash your hands and mouth. Eh!
what napkin is this? When did they clean
themselves who wiped themselves dry on
this? Run, fetch another cleaner than this.
Let us sit down in our usual order. Is this
the boy who is to be our guest?
Piso. Yes, this is he.
Master. Of what country is he?
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Piso. A Fleming.
Master. Of what city in that province?
Piso. From Bruges.
Master. Let him sit in the seat close to you. Let
every one take his knife and clean his bread, if
there should stick any ashes or coal on the
crust. Whose turn is it this week to say
grace (sacret mensam)?
Florus. Feed our hearts with Thy love, O Christ, who
through Thy goodness nourishest the lives of
all living beings. Blessed be these Thy gifts
to us who partake of them so that Thou who
providest them may be blessed.30 Amen.
Master. Sit as far apart as possible, so as not to press
against one another’s sides, since there is sufficient
room for each. And you, Brugensian,
have you a knife?
Piso. This is a wonder! A Fleming without a knife,
and he, too, a Brugensian, where the best
knives are made.
Nep. I don’t need a knife. I can part my food into
pieces by biting it with the teeth, and tear it
into bits by my fingers.
Usher. They say that biting is very useful both for the
gums and also for the surface of the teeth.
Master. Where didst thou receive early instruction in
the Latin tongue, for thou appearest to me
not badly taught?
Nep. At Bruges, under John Theodore Nervius.
Master. An industrious, learned, and honest man.
Bruges is a most elegant city, but it is to be
regretted that owing to the changing of the
population from day to day, it is going down.
When did you leave it?
Nep. Six days ago.
Master. When did you begin to study?
Nep. Three years ago.
Master. You have not got on badly.
Nep. Deservedly; for I have had a master I am not
ashamed of.
Master. But what is our Vives doing?
Nep. They say that he is training as an athlete, yet
not by athletics.
Master. What is the meaning of that?
Nep. He is always wrestling, but not bravely enough.
Master. With whom?
Nep. With his gout (morbo articulari).
Master. O mournful wrestler, which first of all attacks
the feet.
Usher. Nay, rather cruel victor which fetters the whole
body. But what are you doing? Why do
you stop eating? You would seem to have
come here not to eat, but to stare around.
Let nobody during the meal disturb his cap lest
any hair fall into the dishes. Why don’t you
treat your guest as a comrade? Nepotulus, I
drink to you.
Nep. Sir, your toast is most welcome.
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Usher. Empty your cup, since so meagre a draught
remains in it.
Nep. This would be new to me.
Praec. What! not empty it? But you, Usher, what
do you say? What have you new to give us
at our meal?
Usher. I say nothing indeed, but I have thought much
during the last two hours on the art of grammar.
Master. And what of that now?
Usher. On very hidden things and the penetration of
learning: first, why the grammarians have
placed in their art three genders when there are
merely two in nature? again, why nature does
not produce things of the neuter gender as it
does of the masculine and feminine? I cannot
find out the cause of this great mystery. So,
too, the philosophers say that there are three
tenses, but our art demands five, therefore our
art is outside the nature of things.
Master. Nay, rather thou art thyself outside of the
nature of things, for art is in the nature of things.
Usher. If I am outside the nature of things, how can I
eat this bread and meat, which are in the
nature of things?
Master. Thou art so much the worse to belong to
another nature whilst you eat what belongs
to this our nature.
Nep. Παράφθεγμα ἀπροσδιόνυσον. I would wish another
solution of my questions. Would that we
had now some Palaemon or Varro who could
resolve these questions.
Master. Why not rather another, an Aristotle or Plato?
Have you not something further to say?
Usher. Yesterday I saw committed a crime of deepest
dye (scelus capitale). The schoolmaster of the
Straight Street (vicus rectus), who smells worse
than a goat, and instructs his threepenny
classes in his school, which abounds in dirt
and filth, pronounced three or four times
volucres with the accent on the penultimate.
I indeed was astounded that the earth did not
at once gulp him up.
Praec. What otherwise ought one to expect such a
schoolmaster to say? He is in other parts of
the grammatical rules thoroughly worn out
(detritus). But you are disturbed over a very
small matter and make a tragedy out of a
comedy, or still more truly a farce.
Usher. I have finished my task. Now it is your turn.
You now keep the conversation going.
Praec. I don’t wish to give you the chance to answer
me what I don’t ask (παραφθέγγης). This
broth is getting cold. Bring a table fire-pan.
Heat it up a little before you dip your bread
in it. This radish is not eatable, it is so tough—and
so are the rootlets in the broth.
Usher. They certainly have not brought the toughness
from the market, but they have acquired it
here in our store-room in which the pantry is
quite unsuited for provisions. I don’t know
why it is we always have brought to us here
bones without marrow in them.
Praec. Bones have but little marrow in them at the
new moon (sub lunam silentem).
Usher. What when it is full moon?
Praec. Then there is plenty.
Usher. But our bones have little, or more truly no,
marrow.
Praec. It is not the moon that bereaves us of marrow
but our Lamia. She has here put in too much
pepper and ginger, and in the soup and particularly
in the salad there is also too much mint,
rock-parsley, sage, cole-wort, cress, hyssop.
Nothing is more harmful to the bodies of boys
and youths than foods which make the stomach
hot.
Arch. What kinds of herbs then would you wish to be
used for food?
Praec. Lettuce, garden-oxtongue, purslain, mixed with
some rock-parsley.
Here, you, Gangolfus, don’t wipe your lips
with your hand or on your cuff, but wipe both
lips and hands with your napkin, which has
been provided you for the purpose. Don’t
touch the meat, except on that side which you
are about to take yourself. You, Dromo,
don’t you observe that you are putting your
coat-sleeves into the fat of the meat? If they
are open, tuck them up to the shoulders. If
they are not, turn them or fold them to the
elbow. If they slip back again, fix them
firm with a needle, or what would be still more
suitable for you, with a thorn. You, delicate
little lordling, you are reclining on the table.
Where did you learn to do that? In some
hog-stye? Eh! you there, put him a little
cushion for him to lean on. Prefect of the
table, see that the remains of the dinner don’t
get wasted. Put them away in the store-room.
Take away first of all the salt-cellar,
then the bread, then the dishes, plates, napkins,
and lastly the table-cloth. Let each one
clean his own knife and put it away in its
sheath. You there, Cinciolus, don’t scrape
your teeth with your knife, for it is injurious.
Make for yourself a tooth-pick of a feather or
of a thin sharp piece of wood, and scrape gently,
so as not to scar the gum or draw blood.
Stand up all of you and wash your hands
before thanks are returned. Move the table
away, call the maid that she may sweep the
floor with the broom. Let us thank Christ.
Let him who said grace return thanks.
Florus. For this timely meal, we render Thee timely
thanks, Lord Christ. Grant that we may for
eternity render immortal thanks. Amen.
Praec. Now go and play, and have your talk, and walk
about wherever you please, whilst the light
permits.
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Nugo, Graculus, Turdus, Bambalio
In this dialogue Vives puts forth nineteen little narratives
suited to the age of childhood and as it were the progymnasmata
of eloquence. The names also of the interlocutors are neatly
fabled.
Nugo is so called from nugae, as if a small retailer of trifles
(nugivendulus).
Graculus and Turdus are feigned names from the loquacity of
those birds. Compare the Proverbs, Graculus graculo assidet (one
jackdaw resembles another),31 surdior turdo (deafer than a thrush).
Bambalio is a man of worthlessness and of stammering speech
as Cicero interprets it. Philip. 3. Compare the Proverb
Bambylius homo.
Nugo. Let us sit on this trunk, and you, Graculus, on
that stone facing us, so that without anything
to hinder us we may observe all who pass by.
We shall keep ourselves warm near this wall,
which is excellently exposed to the sun. What
a fine trunk is this and how enjoyable it is!
Turd. For us to sit on it!
Nugo. It must have been a very high and thick tree
from which it was cut.
Turd. Such as there are in India.
Grac. How do you know! Have you been in India
with the Spaniards?
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Turd. As if one could know nothing of a district without
having been in it! But I will give you my
authority. Pliny writes that trees in India
grow to such a height that a man cannot shoot
a dart over them, and the people there are not
to seek in shooting their arrows, as Vergil says.
Nugo. Pliny also says that a company of horsemen
could be hidden under the branches.
Turd. No one can wonder at that who considers the
rushes of that district, which the infirm people,
at any rate the rich, use to support them in
walking.
Grac. Eh! what hour is it?
Nugo. No hour at all, for the hour-bell is now thrown
down to the ground. Haven’t you been to
see it?
Grac. I did not dare, for they say that it is dangerous.
Nugo. I have been there and saw no end of women with
child spring across the channel for the molten
metal, which is dug in the earth.
Turd. I heard that this was beneficial for them.
Grac. This is distaff philosophy, as they say, but I was
inquiring as to the hour.
Nugo. What need have you to know the time? If you
wish to do anything, while there is opportunity,
there is the time for it. But where is your
watch (horologium viatorium)?
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Grac. I let it fall lately, when I was escaping the dog
belonging to the gardener, whose plums I had
plucked.
Turd. From the window I saw you running, but I could
not see where you fled because the view was
blocked by the fruit garden, which my mother
has planted there, against the will of my
father, and in spite of his many protests. But
my mother, indeed, in the beginning was persistent
in getting her own way, so that it could
scarcely be borne.
Nugo. What is amiss with you? You are becoming silent.
Turd. I was weeping and said nothing, for what should
I otherwise do when my dearest ones disagree?
To be sure my mother ordered me to stand by
her as she called lustily; but I had not the
heart to mutter a word against my father.
Therefore I was sent to school four days
running without breakfast by my enraged
mother, and she swore I was not her son, but
had been changed by the nurse, for which she
would have the nurse summoned before the
Praetor capitalis.
Nugo. Who is the Praetor capitalis? Hasn’t every
Praetor got a head on?
Turd. How am I to know? So she said.
Grac. Look there! Who are those people with mantles,
and armour for the legs.
Nugo. They are Frenchmen.
Grac. What, is there then peace?
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Turd. They said that there was to be war and a dire
war too.
Grac. What are they carrying?
Turd. Wine.
Nugo. Then they will give pleasure to many.
Grac. Of a surety. For not only does wine cheer in
drinking, but there is also the thought and
recollection of it.
Nugo. At any rate for wine-drinkers. It matters
nothing to me, for I drink water.
Grac. Then you will never write a good poem.
Turd. Do you know that woman there?
Grac. No, who is she?
Turd. She has her ears stopped up against gossip.
Grac. Why so?
Turd. So as to hear nothing; because she hears ill of
herself.32
Nugo. How many “hear ill of themselves” who have
unstopped and normal ears?
Turd. I believe that it is to the point to quote the
passage in Cicero’s Tusculanae Quaestiones.
M. Crassus was somewhat deaf—but what was
worse, he “heard ill.”
Nugo. There is no doubt that this must be traced back
to slander. But, I say, Bambalio, have you
found your Tusculanae Quaestiones?
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Bamb. Yes, at the huckster’s, but so interpolated that
I did not at first recognise it.
Nugo. Who had stolen it?
Bamb. Vatinius. And may he be repaid for his misdeed!
Grac. Ah! that man with the hook-like and pitch-black
hands! Never let such a man have access to
your book-cases, nor to your manuscript-boxes
if you wish all your things to be safe
and sound. Don’t you know that every one
holds Vatinius for a thief of purses and he has
been accused of thieving purses before the
Principal (gymnasiarcha).
Nugo. The sister of the girl there yesterday gave birth
to twins.
Grac. What is there wonderful in that? A woman
living in Salt Street at the Helmeted Lion six
days ago had a triplet.
Nugo. Pliny says that there have been as many as
seven at a birth.
Turd. Who of you has heard of the wife of the Count of
Holland who is said to have had at a birth as
many children as there are days in the year,
owing to the curse of a certain beggar?
Grac. What was the story of this beggar?
Turd. This beggar was laden with children and begged
an alms of the countess. But when she saw
so many children, she drove the beggar away
by her reproaches, calling her a harlot. She
said she could not possibly have had from one
man so great a family. The innocent beggar
prayed the gods that as they knew she was
chaste and pure, they would give the countess
from her husband at one birth as many
children as there are days in the year. So it
happened, and the numerous posterity is
shown33 in a certain town in that island to-day.
Grac. I will rather believe this than investigate it.
Nugo. All things are possible with God.
Grac. And, moreover, easy of accomplishment.
Nugo. Don’t you know that man there laden with nets
accompanied by dogs? He wears a summer
hat and soldier’s boots, and rides on the lankest
of mules.
Turd. Isn’t it Mannius the verse-maker?
Nugo. Clearly it is.
Turd. Why has he made such a metamorphosis?
Nugo. From Minerva he has gone over to Diana, i.e.,
from a most honourable occupation to an empty
and foolish labour. His father had increased
his possessions by his ability in business.
He thinks his father’s skill is a dishonour to
himself, and turns himself to keeping horses
and following the chase, having thought that
not otherwise than by hunting can he acquire
nobility of race. For if he were to do anything
useful, he would not be held of noble
family. Curius follows him to the hunt—with
dice. He is a very accomplished man, a
very well-known dice-player, who understands
how to throw the dice in the right way for
himself. At home he has for companion
Tricongius.
Turd. Say rather an amphora.34
Grac. Or indeed a sponge.
Nugo. Better still, the driest sand of Africa.
Bamb. They say that he is always thirsty.
Nugo. Whether he is always thirsty or not, I don’t
know. But certainly he is always ready to
drink.
Bamb. Listen, there is the nightingale!
Grac. Where is she?
Bamb. Don’t you see her there, sitting on that branch?
Listen how ardently she sings; and how she
goes on and on!
Nugo. (As Martial says) Flet Philomela nefas. (The
nightingale weeps at injustice.)
Grac. What a wonder she carols so sweetly when she is
away from Attica where the very waves of the
sea dash upon the shore not without rhythm
(non sine numero).
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Nugo. Pliny observes that they sing with more exactitude
when men are near them.
Turd. What is the reason for that?
Nugo. I will declare unto you the reason. The cuckoo
and the nightingale sing at the same time,
that is, from the middle of April till the end of
May or thereabouts. These two birds once met
in a contest of sweetness of song, when a judge
was sought, and because it was a trial concerning
sound, an ass seemed the most suitable for
this decision, since he of all the animals had
the longest ears. The ass rejected the nightingale,
because he could not understand her harmony,
and awarded the victory to the cuckoo.
The nightingale appealed to men, and when she
sees a man she immediately pours forth her
song, and sings with zest so as to approve herself
to him, so as to avenge the wrong which
she received from the ass.
Grac. This is a subject worthy of a poet.
Nugo. Why, don’t you think it worthy of a philosopher?
Ask the question of our new masters from
Paris.
Grac. Many of them are philosophers in their clothes,
not in their brains.
Nugo. Why do you say on account of their dress? For
you should rather say that they seem to be
cooks or mule-drivers.
Grac. I say so because they wear clothes which are
clumsy, worn out, torn, muddy, dirty, and full
of lice in them.
Nugo. Why this almost constitutes them cynic philosophers!
Grac. Nay, they are rather cimici35 but not what they
desire to seem, viz., peripatetics, for Aristotle,
the leader of this sect, was a most polished
man. But I have long since bidden farewell
to philosophy, if I cannot any other way than
theirs become a philosopher. For what is more
comely and worthy in a man than cleanliness
and a certain refinement in bearing and in
dress? In this respect I consider the
Lovanians are superior to the Parisians.
Turd. But don’t you think that too much attention to
cleanliness and elegance is a hindrance to
studies?
Grac. I certainly believe in cleanliness, but I don’t
think there should be an anxious and morose
absorption in it.
Nugo. Do you then condemn elegance, on which Laurentius
Valla has written so diffusely and which
our teachers so diligently commend to us?
There is an elegance, e.g., of words, in speaking,
and there is an elegance of clothes in
dressing.
Turd. Do you know what was told me by the letter-carrier
at Louvain?
Nugo. What was that?
Turd. That Clodius fell in love madly with some girl
and Lusco transferred himself from letters to
merchandise, that is, from horseback to mule-back.
Nugo. What do I hear?
Turd. You all knew Clodius, full of vigour, rubicund,
well-clothed, cheerful, with shining countenance,
affable, genial teller of stories. Now it
is said of him that he is without vigour, bloodless,
of pallid colour, sallow, witless, wild-looking,
stern, taciturn, one who shuns the
light and human society. No one who knew
him formerly would now recognise him.
Nugo. O wretched young man! Whence has this evil
befallen him?
Turd. He is in love.
Nugo. But whence his love?
Turd. As far as I could gather from the speech of the
letter-carrier he had given up solid and serious
studies and had devoted himself entirely to
the looser Latin poets—those of the vernacular;
thence he got the first preparation of
his mind. So that if by any means any spark
of fire, however slight it might be, should fall
on him he was as kindling-wood ready for it
and would flare up suddenly like lit flax. So
he gave himself up to sleep and idleness.
Nugo. What need is there further to relate more or
greater causes of his falling in love?
Turd. Now he is beside himself, going about here,
there, and everywhere alone, but always either
silent, or singing something and dancing, and
writing verses in the vernacular.
Nugo. Which, forsooth, his Lycoris herself may read.
Grac. O Christ, preserve our hearts from so pernicious
a disease!
Turd. Unless I am deceived as to the character of
Clodius, he will return some time to a better
and more fruitful life. His mind wanders
into the foreign lands of evil; it does not take
up its residence in them.
Grac. And that other one—what is the kind of commerce
in which he engages?
Turd. He has sent his father a letter written in a weeping
strain concerning the sad state of his
studies. The letter-carrier himself read the
letter since it was left open. The father, a
man impervious to culture (crassae Minervae),
has handed him over from MSS. to wools,
cloths, dyes, pepper, ginger, and cinnamon.
Now girt as to his arms, wonderfully diligent
and sedulous in his odorous shop, he invites
his customers, receives them blandly, climbs
up and comes down most unsafe ladders, produces
his goods, shows them this way and
that, tells lies, perjures himself. Everything
is easier to him than studying.
Nugo. From a boy I have known him intent on business,
and to delight in money, and so he has held
business in higher esteem than letters, and he
has preferred filthy lucre to the excellency of
erudition. Some time he will repent it.
Turd. But too late!
Nugo. Without doubt. May he take care that it does
not happen to him as it did to his cousin.
Turd. Which?
Nugo. Antonius in Fruit Lane, near the Three Jackdaws.
Haven’t you heard that in a former
year he “cooked”?36
Grac. What did he cook, please? Is this so great an
evil? Doesn’t it go on in every kitchen daily?
Turd. He “cooked” his accounts (rem decoxit).
Grac. What accounts?
Turd. His business with others, and couldn’t meet his
creditors.
Grac. Hasn’t he paid back his creditors?
Turd. He has betaken himself to a place of retreat, and
made over his books one by one at a quarter
of their cost price.
Grac. Is this what you call “cooking,” when nothing
could be more raw. But how did he lose the
money?
Turd. I have heard lately from his father with regard
to that, but I have not yet fully understood
the matter. The father said that he had made
most prodigal borrowings, which would skin
him and swallow him up to the bones.
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Grac. What do you mean by “borrowings” and what
by “skinning”?
Turd. I don’t quite know, but I believe it has something
to do with theft.
Nugo. Do you see, there, that fat man? You would
scarcely think it possible to move him. Yet
he is a tumbler and rope-dancer (funambulus).
Grac. Ah! be quiet! You are saying something which
is incredible.
Turd. He does not indeed dance with his body, but he
makes drinking-cups dance.
Grac. Did the letter-carrier bring any news of our
companions?
Turd. Yes, concerning Hermogenes, who in all our contests
always bore away the chief prizes. By
an astounding change from being a man of
the highest ability and learning (as his time of
life brought about) suddenly he has become
most sluggish and boorish.
Nugo. Such a change I have often seen happen with
certain keen-witted men.
Bamb. They say that this happens when the sharpness
of the wit is not really genuine, like a lancet
whose edge is easily blunted, especially if it is
used to cut anything a little too hard.
Grac. What, is there an edge in wits, even as there is in
steel?
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Bamb. I don’t know. I have often seen steel, but
never have I seen a man’s wits.
Nugo. What has become of that young countryman
(paganus) who some months ago on his arrival
entertained us with a lunch consisting of
delicacies brought from the country, after
whom the teacher has sent four slave-catchers
to bring him back from his flight? He was
rather a handsome fellow!
Turd. He has become a delightful ass! My aunt’s
maid-servant, who is his cousin, met him
lately in his village, with bare head, uncombed,
shaggy, and bristly, with wooden shoes and a
poor, rough coat, selling in a public square
paper pictures and horn books, and singing
new songs before a circle of sightseers.
Grac. Yet he must be a man sprung from a distinguished
family.
Turd. Why so?
Grac. Since his father is of the race of the Coclites.
Nugo. That name does not so much argue a man of
noble family as a thrower of the dart. He
will take his aim easily.
Turd. Or it betokens a carpenter who directs his red-chalk
with one eye.
Nugo. That boy has never pleased me, nor has he ever
disclosed to me any sign of ability.
Grac. How so?
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Nugo. Because he never loved studies, nor showed any
reverence for his teacher. This is the clearest
proof of a lost mind. Then, too, he ridiculed
old men and mocked at the unfortunate.
But who is that man clothed in silk, adorned
with neck-chain and with gold decorations?
Grac. He is of a renowned race, and has a mother a
most noble and fruitful mother.
Nugo. Who is she?
Grac. The earth,37 and you will scarcely believe what
delights he always has. You would say he
was a little child up to now in the cradle, crying
for his rattle.
Nugo. And yet the down begins to creep over his cheeks.
Bamb. Ah! the overseer (observator) is coming. Get
ready your books, open them, and begin to
turn over the pages and read them.
There has not been for many weeks a more
zealous overseer, one who would rejoice so
much to pass on charges against any one to the
master.
Bamb. Would that at least he would accuse us of our
real faults, but for the most part he brings false
witness against us.
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Nugo. Let that saying of Horace be a wall of brass to us:
Nihil conscire sibi, nulla pallescere culpa.
But be quiet! I will immediately put him
to rout.
Observ. What do you say, Vacia?
Nugo. What do you say, Vatrax?
Observ. What do you say, Batrachomyomachia? But,
joking aside, what are you doing here?
Nugo. What are we doing? What are good scholars
and students always doing? We are reading,
learning, disputing. Tell us, please, most
charming creature,38 what is the meaning of that
passage in Vergil’s Eclogues:
... transversa tuentibus hirquis.
Observ. You do well; proceed with your studies as it
behoves young men of good abilities. I have
now other business in hand. Farewell.
Nugo. We have had sufficient trifling. Let us get back
to school. But first let us read over again
what the teacher explained, so that we learn
something, and give him pleasure, and so that
he may approve of us—which must be in our
prayers as much as it is in those of the father
of each of us.
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Philippus, Misippus, Misospudus, Planetes
In this dialogue are contained those matters that pertain to
horses and peregrinations, concerning which see as a whole,
Grapaldus, lib. 1, cap. 8, and Volaterranus, lib. 25, philologiae.
We place the kinds one by one, according to their nomenclature,
primarily for the sake of boys.
Lupatum, ein scharpff Gebisz.
Frenum, ein Zaum.
Orea, der Riem unter dem Maul.
Aurea, der Riem über die Ohren.
Antilena, der Brustriem.
Postilena, der hinder Riem. Hinderbug.
Ephippium, Sattel.
Stapes vel stapeda, Steigreiff.
Habena, Zügel.
Calcar, Spor.
Genera Equorum
Asturco gradarius, tollutarius, tieldo, ein Zelter.
Mannus, ein kleines Rösslein.
Cantherius, ein Mönch.
Succussator, ein harttrabender Gaul.
Vector seu ephippiarius, Reitrosz.
Clitellarius, Saumrosz.
Jugalis, helciarius, Ziehrosz. Wagenrosz. Kummetrosz.
Dorsualis, Müllerrosz, das auff dem Rücke trägt.
Meritorius, Lehenrosz. Drei Plappert Rosz.
Currus
| Species |
{ |
Rheda, ein Karr.
Sarracum, Lastwagen. Stein. Wagen. |
| Partes |
{ |
Rotae, Reder.
Temo, Deichsel.
Canthi, Radschinnen. |
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The names of the interlocutors are suitably framed. Misippus,
the hater of horses, μισῶν τοῦς ἵππους; Philippus, the lover of
horses, φιλῶν τοῦς ἵππους; Misospudus, the hater of studies (osor
studiorum), μισων τῶν σπυδίων; Planetes erro, vagus, planus, ein
Landstreicher, from πλανάομαι, erro, vagor.
Phil. Wouldn’t you like us to set out for Boulogne
along the Seine, to cheer our minds?
Misi. and Miso. There is nothing we should like better,
especially on a mild day like this, without a
sound of wind, and when, again, we are having
a holiday from school.
Phil. Why are you not at work to-day?
Miso. Because Pandulfus is going to make all the
masters drunk with a great luncheon in honour
of his laurels in obtaining his mastership.
Plan. Oh! what a lot they will drink!
Miso. Much more than will satisfy thirst.
Misi. I have an Asturian horse.
Phil. And I have a hired horse which I have got from a
one-eyed rogue.
Miso. Planetes and I will go in a travelling carriage;
the rest, if it seems good to them, shall follow
us on foot, or by strength of arms push a boat
against the current of the stream.
Phil. Rather let it be dragged along by horses.
Miso. As you please (ut erit cordi), for we choose to take
the journey on foot.
Phil. Eh! boy, bridle my horse and saddle him!
Why, in the name of mischief, are you putting
on the little steed so sharp-toothed a curb?
Give him rather that light little curb with the
knobs.
Boy. Alas! he has neither bit nor bridle.
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Phil. If I knew who had broken them, I would break
him!
Misi. What are you saying in your agitation?
Phil. Put in bread for a meal. Get it where you can,
conveniently.
Boy. Certainly, whilst you are at your school classes.
You want both horses and their equipment!
Phil. Supply, then, what is lacking out of this cord.
Boy. It will look unsightly.
Phil. Go, fool, who will see us when we get out of the
town?
Boy. The body-band is also in two.
Phil. Mend it with some straps.
Boy. It has no tail-band.
Phil. There is no need for it.
Plan. A great and experienced horseman! Why, the
the saddle will slide on to his neck and the
horse will shoot you over his head.
Phil. What is that to me? The road is muddy rather
than stony. I shall take my fill of dirt, but
none of my blood will be spilt. If all these
preparations have to be made, we shall not
set forth from this place before the evening.
Bring a horse of some kind, whatever his
trappings may be.
Boy. Here he is, ready. Mount him. Eh! what are
you doing, putting your right foot first into
the stirrup?
Phil. What am I to do then?
Boy. Why, the left, and hold the reins in your left
hand; with the right hand take this switch,
which will serve in place of spurs.
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Phil. I don’t need it. My heels will do for spurs.
Boy. You see Jubellius Taurea, or is it Asellus who
entered into a struggle with that famous
steed.39
Phil. Have done with your glib stories! Where are
the others?
Boy. Off you go! I will accompany you on foot.
Misi. Most abominable, jolting horse. The beast will
break all my bones before we reach the town.
Phil. What, in the name of evil, is that horse-covering?
It is a pack-saddle, I believe.
Misi. Surely not.
Phil. How much for it? What’s its price?
Misi. Fourteen Turonic40 sesterces.
Phil. I wouldn’t give as much for the horse himself
with his fodder and trappings. It seems to
me to be neither a draught horse, nor a horse
for riding, but a beast of burden, ready for
the pack-saddle, or for the yoke, or to carry
goods on its back. Note, I beg, how it constantly
stumbles. It would trip up over a
piece of paper, or a stalk of straw spread out
on its way.
Misi. What do you say of it? It is as yet a foal. But
chatter on as you like. Do you see this horse?
He, whatever he may be, is going to carry me,
or I him.
Boy. The poor animal has a very tender hoof.
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Phil. What, then, did the one-eyed man so carefully
warn you about when he handed the horse
over to you?
Misi. He begged, in the most amiable manner, that the
two of us should not sit on the beast, one on
the saddle and the other on the buttocks, and
that I should have him carefully covered
when he was put in the stable.
Boy. The poor horse surely needs covering when he has
his sides of raw flesh.
Phil. What are you doing? Are you not getting into
the carriage?
Plan. You speak to the point. The driver now demands
as much again as what we agreed to.
Phil. It is easy to deal with drivers and boatmen; they
will do everything to your satisfaction. They
tell you you will accomplish everything.
This kind of man is soft, gentle, obliging,
courteous, respectful. Drivers are the scum
of the earth, the boatmen the scum of the sea.
Give him the half of what he asks.
Boy. What time do you suppose it is already?
Phil. Guessing by the sun, I should say past ten o’clock.
Boy. Mid-day is near.
Phil. Fancy! Eh! Misippus, let us get along. Follow
who can! We shall be found at the “Red
Hat,” i.e., the hostelry situated opposite the
royal pyramid, not far from the house of the
Curio.41
Misi. Which way shall we go?
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Phil. Through the Marcelline Gate, on the right. It
is a simple and straight road.
Misi. Nay, let us take this lane. It is a pleasant and
quiet way.
Phil. By no means. Nothing is easier and safer than
the high road, for by cross roads we shall lose
our friends, especially since that way, if my
memory does not fail me, is full of windings
and turnings.
Misi. Who are those men with spears? They seem to
be soldiers from the mercenary troops.
Phil. What must we do?
Misi. Let us turn back, so that we don’t get robbed.
Phil. Let us go forward, for on horseback we shall
easily escape them, by running through the
fields.
Misi. What if they have got handcuffs with them!
Phil. I see nothing of the sort, but only long lances.
Misi. Come nearer, boy.
Boy. What’s amiss?
Misi. Don’t you see those Germans?
Boy. Which?
Misi. Those people coming this way against us.
Boy. They are German42 sure enough, but two Parisian
peasants with their sticks.
Misi. Yes, certainly, that is so. A blessing on you!
You have restored my courage and vitality.
But where are Misospudus and Planetes?
Boy. The driver, enraged at not getting what he had
demanded, drove them on a lumpy road.
The horses, in struggling with all their might
to drag the wheels as they stuck in the deep
mud, broke in pieces the pole of the carriage
and the horse-collars. Then the tyres, together
with the nails, were torn off. The
reckless driver, with blind rage, had put the
brake on the wheel. He is now angrily repairing
the damage and blaspheming all the gods,
and cursing the passengers with the most
terrible imprecations.
Phil. May his curses recoil on his own head!
Boy. I think they will leave the carriage behind and
get into a cart, which is going, unladen, to
Boulogne. Glaucus and Diomedes had got
on a boat, but the boatman declared that
against this wind they could not make way
with their oars and poles. Also they say that
the horses which pull boats up the stream
are all at work, so I know not by what means
the boat could be drawn. So they have not
yet loosened the stern-rope.
Phil. Is there any news as to the boat fare?
Plan. Absolutely none.
Phil. That is extraordinary. I guess what will happen.
They won’t reach Boulogne before nightfall.
Misi. What of that! Let us take all to-morrow for
refreshing our minds. But look how softly
the river flows by! What a delightful murmur
there is of the full crystal water amongst the
golden rocks! Do you hear the nightingale
and the goldfinch? Of a truth, the country
round Paris is most delightful!
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Phil. What sight can be equal to this? How placidly
the Seine flows in its current, how that small
ship with its full sail before a favourable breeze
is borne along! It is marvellous how minds
are restored by all these things. Oh, how the
meadow is clothed as by magic art.
Misi. And, moreover, by what a marvellous Artist!
Phil. What a sweet scent is exhaled!
Misi. Here, here; bend to the left so as to escape the
thickest of mud, in which thy steed at once
would lose his hoof. How different this field
is from the next, covered over with dirt,
squalid, withered, bristling thick with straws,
and armed with thorns.
Boy. Don’t you see that the field is covered with the
waste from the river? and elsewhere it is
fruitful.
Hyberno pulvere, verno luto, magna farra Camille metes.
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Phil. Please, sing some verses, as you are wont to do.
Misi. With pleasure.
Felix ille animi, divisque simillimus ipsis,
Quem non mendaci resplendens gloria fuco
Sollicitat, non fastosi mala gaudia luxus:
Sed tacitos sinit ire dies, et paupere cultu
Exigit innocuae tranquilla silentia vitae.
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Phil. Most elegant and matterful verses, whose are they,
I beg?
Misi. Don’t you know?
Phil. No.
Misi. They are by Angelus Politian.
Phil. I should have taken them to be from the classics.
They have the grace of antiquity. I suspect
we have lost our way!
Misi. Ah! good sir, which is the way to Boulogne?
Rustic. You are going out of the way. Turn your
beasts to the cross-roads and strike the way
there where the river bends. On it you cannot
get wrong. The road is straight and plain up
to the old oak, then you turn quickly on this
side (pointing with his hand).
Misi. We are grateful.
Rustic. May God lead you!
Misi. I would rather run on foot than be shaken as I am
by this horse.
Phil. You will have so much the greater appetite.
Misi. I shall, on the contrary, be able to eat nothing,
so weary and exhausted I am in all my body.
I would rather go to bed than ask for anything
to eat.
Phil. Sit down, with knees drawn together, and not
stretched apart. You will feel weariness the
less.
Misi. That is the custom of women. I would do it
were I not afraid of the laughter and grimaces
of passers by.
Boy. Stop a moment, Philip, until the smith here has
shod thy horse, whose shoe on the right foot
has become loose.
Misi. Nay, rather let us stay here, so that if the inn is
closed we may sleep out in the open air.
Phil. What is that? Under the open sky? Would it
not be more excellent than in a closed room?
It would be a more serious matter for us to
have to go without a meal.
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Manricus, Mendoza, the Teacher
As, above, in the fifth dialogue, Vives taught the method of
reading, so here he explains in an elegant manner the method of
writing. For it is no small honour for a learned man to form his
letters skilfully. But he adds the praise of correct writing and
various kinds of writing, also he writes somewhat on pens and
their preparation, and concerning different kinds of paper and
other adjuncts of writing.
Manr. Were you present to-day when the oration on
the usefulness of writing was delivered?
Mend. Where?
Manr. In the lecture-room of Antonius Nebrissensis.
Mend. No, but do you recount what took place, if anything
of it remains in your memory.
Manr. What am I to recount? He said so many things
that almost everything has fallen from my
mind.
Mend. Then it has happened to you what Quintilian
said of the vessels with narrow neck, viz.,
that they spit out the supply of liquid when it
is poured down on them; but if it is instilled
slowly they receive it. But haven’t you
retained anything of it exactly?
Manr. Almost nothing.
Mend. Then at least something.
Manr. Very, very little.
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Mend. Then communicate this very, very little to me.
Manr. First of all he said that it was thoroughly
wonderful that you can comprise so great a
variety of human sounds within so few written
characters. Then, that absent friends are able
to talk to one another by the aid of letters.
He added that nothing seemed more marvellous
in these islands recently discovered by
the munificence of our kings, whence indeed
gold is brought, than that men should be able
to open up to one another what they think
from a long distance by a piece of paper being
sent with black stains marked on it. For
the question was asked, Whether paper knew
how to speak? He also said this, that, and
many other things which I have forgotten.
Mend. How long did he speak?
Manr. Two hours.
Mend. And from so long an oration have you committed
to memory so slight a portion as what
you have just said?
Manr. I have indeed committed it to the charge of my
memory, but my memory would not keep it all.
Mend. Clearly you have the wide-mouthed jar of the
daughters of Danaus.
Manr. Nay, I have received the oration into a sieve,
not into a jar at all.
Mend. We will summon some one who will bring back
to memory those points which you have forgotten.
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Manr. Wait a bit! for I am seeking to recall something
by thinking it over. Now I have it.
Mend. Speak it out, then! Why didn’t you take
notes?
Manr. I hadn’t a pen at hand.
Mend. Not even a writing-tablet?
Manr. Not even a writing-tablet.
Mend. Now tell on.
Manr. I have lost it again; you have shaken it out of
mind by interrupting so disagreeably.
Mend. What, so soon!
Manr. Now it comes back to me. He stated on the
authority of some writer (I don’t know who it
was) that nothing is more fitted as a help to
great erudition than to write clearly and
quickly.
Mend. Who was the writer quoted?
Manr. I have often heard his name, but it has escaped
my memory.
Mend. As have the other things! But the crowd of
our nobility do not follow the precept (as to
the value of writing), for they think it is a fine
and becoming thing not to know how to form
their letters. You would say their writing
was the scratching of hens, and unless you
were warned beforehand whose hand it was,
you would never guess.
Manr. And for this reason you see how thick-headed
men are, how foolish, and imbued with corrupt
prejudices.
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Mend. What are the common run of people, if the nobles
are so skilless? or are the classes little different
from each other?
Manr. Because the common people are not distinguished
by their clothes and possessions, they
are the more separated by their life and sound
judgment in their affairs.
Mend. Do you mean that to vindicate ourselves from
the charge of vulgar ignorance we must give
ourselves up to the practice of writing?
Manr. I don’t know how it is inborn in me to plough
out my letters so distortedly, so unequally and
confusedly.
Mend. You have this tendency from your noble birth.
Practise yourself—habit will change even what
you think to be inborn in you.
Manr. But where does he (the writing-master) live?
Mend. Don’t seek that from me, for I did not hear the
man, nor see him, while I understood that you
heard him. You would like everything to be
brought to your mouth, chewed beforehand.
Manr. Now I remember he said he rented a house near
the church of SS. Justus and Pastor.
Mend. So he is our neighbour. Let us go.
Manr. Eh, boy! where is the teacher?
Boy. In that room there!
Manr. What is he doing?
Boy. He is teaching some pupils.
Manr. Tell him that there stand before his doors some
who have come to be taught by him.
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Teacher. Who are these boys? What do they want?
Boy. They desire conference with you.
Teacher. Admit them straight to me.
Manr. and Mend. We wish you health and all prosperity,
teacher.
Teacher. And I, in my turn, wish you a happy entrance
here. May Christ preserve you! What is it?
What do you wish?
Manr. To be taught by you in that art which you
profess, if only you have time and are willing.
Teacher. Certainly, you ought to be boys highly
educated, for so you speak and desire with
modest mouths. Now, so much the more
since a blush has spread over your whole face.
Have confidence, my boys, for that is the
colour of virtue. What are your names?
Manr. Manricus and Mendoza.
Teacher. The names themselves are evidence of noble
education and generous minds. But first
then, you will be truly noble if you cultivate
your minds by those arts which are especially
most worthy of your renowned families. How
much wiser you are than that multitude of
nobles who hope that they are going to be
esteemed as better born in proportion as they
are ignorant of the art of writing. But this is
scarcely to be wondered at, since this conviction
has taken hold of the stupid nobles that
nothing is more mean or vile than to pursue
knowledge in anything. And therefore it is to
be seen that they sign their names to their
letters, composed by their secretaries, in a
manner that makes them impossible to be
read; nor do you know from whom the letter
is sent to you, if it is not first told you by the
letter-carrier, or unless you know the seal.
Manr. Over this Mendoza and I have grieved already.
Teacher. But have you come here armed?
Manr. Not at all, good teacher, we should have been
beaten by our teachers if we had dared to
merely look at arms, at our age, let alone to
touch them.
Teacher. Ah, ah! I don’t speak of the arms of blood-shedding,
but of writing-weapons, which are
necessary for our purpose. Have you a quill-sheath
together with quills in it?
Mend. What is a quill-sheath? Is it the same as we
call a writing-reed case?
Teacher. It is. For the men of antiquity were accustomed
to write with styles. Styles were
followed by reeds, especially Nile reeds. The
Agarenes (i.e. the Saracens), if you have seen
them, write with reeds from right to left, as
do almost all the nations in the East. Europe
followed Greece, and, on the contrary, writes
from the left to the right.
Manr. And also the Latins?
Teacher. The Latins also, my sons, but they have their
origin from the Greeks. Formerly the ancient
Latins wrote on parchment which was called
palimpsest because the writing could be wiped
out again, and only on one side, for those books
written on both sides were called Opistographi.
Such was that Orestes of Juvenal
which was written on the back of a written
sheet and not brought to an end. But as to
these matters I will speak some other time;
now those which press. We write with goose
quills, though some use hen’s quills. Your
quills there are particularly useful, for they
have an ample, shining, and firm opening.
Take off the little feathers with a knife and
cut off something from the top. If they have
any roughness, scrape it off, for the smooth
ones are better fitted for use.
Manr. I never use any unless they are stripped of
feathers, and shine, but my instructor taught
me how to make them smooth by saliva and
by rubbing on the under-side of the coat or
stockings.
Teacher. Seasonable counsel!
Mend. Teach us how to make our quills.
Teacher. First of all, cleave the head on both sides, so
that it is split into two. Then whilst you
carefully guide the knife, make a cutting on the
upper part which is called the crena or notch.
Then make quite equal the two little feet
(pedunculos), or if you prefer to call them the
little legs (cruscula); so, nevertheless, that the
right one on which the pen rests in writing may
be higher, but the difference ought to be scarcely
perceptible. If you wish to press the pen on
the paper somewhat firmly, hold it with three
fingers; but if you are writing more quickly,
with two, the thumb and the fore-finger, after
the Italian fashion. For the middle finger
rather checks the course and hinders it from
proceeding too quickly, instead of helping it
forward.
Manr. Reach me the ink vessel.
Mend. Ah! I have let the ink horn fall, whilst coming
here.
Teacher. Boy, bring me that two-handled ink flask, and
let us pour from it into this little leaden mortar.
Mend. Without a sponge!
Teacher. You get the ink thus more flowingly and easily
into the pen. For if you dip the pen into
cotton, or silk-thread, or linen, some fibre or
fluff adheres to the nib. The drawing of this
out causes a delay in writing. Or if you don’t
draw it out, you will make blurs rather than
letters (lituras verius quam literas).
Mend. As my companions advised, I put in either
Maltese linen-cloth or thin, fine silk.
Teacher. That is certainly more satisfactory. However,
it is much better to pour ink only into a
little mortar which stands firmly, for that can
be carried about; for this, of course, a sponge
is necessary. Have you also paper?
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Mend. I have this.
Teacher. It is too rough, and such as would check the
pen so that it would not run without being
hindered, and this is a nuisance for studies.
For whilst you are struggling with roughness
of paper, many things which should be written
down slip from the mind. Leave this kind of
paper, wide, thick, hard, rough, for the printers
of books, for it is so called (libraria) because
from it books are made to last for a very long
time. For daily use, don’t get great Augustan
or Imperial paper, which is named Hieratica
because employed for sacred matters, such as
you see in books used in sacred edifices. Get for
your own use the best letter-paper from Italy,
very thin and firm, or even that common sort
brought over from France, and especially that
which you will find for sale in single blocks at
twopence each (nummis octonis). In addition,
the linden-tree paper, either of the kinds of
paper called Emporetica,45 which we call blotting
paper (bibula), should be in reserve (pro
corollario).
Mend. What do these words mean, for I have often
wondered?
Teacher. Emporetica comes from the Greek and means
paper used for wrapping goods in, and bibula
is so called because it absorbs ink, so that you
don’t need bran, or sand, or dust scraped from
a wall. But best of all is when the letters dry
up of themselves, for by that method they
last so much longer. But you will find it
useful to place Emporetica paper under your
hand so that you may not stain the whiteness
of the writing-paper by sweat or dirt.
Manr. Now give us a copy, if it seems good to you.
Teacher. First the A B C, then syllables, then words
joined together in this fashion. Learn, boy,
those things by which you may become wiser,
and thence happier. Sounds are the symbols
of minds amongst people in one another’s
presence; letters, the symbols between those
who are absent from one another. Imitate
these copies and come here after lunch, or even
to-morrow, so that I may correct your writing.
Manr. We will do so. In the meantime we commend
you to Christ.
Teacher. And I, you, the same.
Mend. Let us go apart from our friends, so that we may
reflect without interruption on what we have
heard from the teacher.
Manr. Agreed! Let us do so!
Mend. We have come to the place we want. Let us sit
down on these stones.
Manr. Yes, as long as we are out of the sun.
Mend. Quick! a half-sheet of paper, which I will return
to you to-morrow.
Manr. Will this small bit be sufficient?
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Mend. Alas! it won’t take six lines, especially of such
writing as mine.
Manr. Write on both sides and make the lines more
crowded together. What need have you to
leave such big spaces between the lines?
Mend. I? I make scarcely any space. For these
letters of mine touch one another both above
and beneath, especially those which have long
heads or feet, such as b and p. But what are
you doing? Have you already ploughed out
two lines? and how elegant they are! except
that they are crooked.
Manr. You write, yourself, and be quiet!
Mend. Certainly with this pen and ink I can by no
means write.
Manr. How is that?
Mend. Don’t you see that the pen besprinkles the paper
with ink outside the letters?
Manr. My ink is so thick that you would think it was
lime. Look there, how it sticks on the top of
the nib and won’t flow down so as to form the
letters. But we will soon remedy both the
inconveniences. Cut off from the top of the
pen with your knife so much that it collects
what is wanted for the letters; I will instil
some drops of water into the ink so as to make
it flow more easily. The best thing would be
vinegar, if you had it at hand, for this
immediately dilutes the thick ink.
Mend. True, but there is the danger lest its acidity
enters into the paper.
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Manr. You needn’t fear any such danger; this paper
is best of all in preventing ink from flowing.
Mend. The extreme edges of this paper of yours are
unequal, wrinkled, and rough.
Manr. Then apply the shears to the margin of the
paper, for then it will seem more elegant, or
write only outside the rough parts. The
slightest obstacles seem to you to be a great
hindrance to prevent you going on. Whatever
you have under your hand, put it on one
side.
Mend. Let us now go back to the teacher.
Manr. Does it seem to you to be time already?
Mend. I fear lest the time has already passed by, for
he has lunch early.
Manr. Let us go. You enter first, for you have less
timidity.
Mend. Nay, rather you, for you have less impudence.
Manr. See that no one goes out from his house and
catches us here, joking and frolicking. Let us
knock at the door with the knocker-ring,
although the door is open, for this would be
more courteous. (Tat-tat.)
Boy. Who is there? Come straight in, whoever you
are!
Manr. It is we. Where is the teacher?
Boy. In his room.
Mend. May all things befall you propitiously, teacher!
Teacher. You have come seasonably.
Mend. We have imitated your copy five or six times on
this paper and bring our work to you to have
it corrected.
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Teacher. You have done rightly. Show it. In the
future let there be a greater space between the
lines so that I may be able to alter your mistakes
and correct them. These letters are too
unequal, an ugly fault in writing. Notice
how much greater n is than e and o than the
circle you make of it. For the bodies of all
the letters ought to be equal.
Mend. Tell us, pray, what do you mean by “bodies”?
Teacher. The middle part of the letters, the part
besides the little heads and feet, if they have
any; b and l have heads, p and q have feet.
In this m the legs (or sides) are not equal in
length. The first is shorter than the middle.
It has also too long a tail, even as that a has.
You don’t sufficiently press the pen on the
paper. The ink scarcely sticks, nor can you
clearly distinguish what the beginnings of the
letters are. Since you have tried to change
these letters into others, having erased parts
with the pointed end of your knife, you have
disfigured your writing. It would have been
better to draw a thin stroke through it. Then
you should have transferred what remains of
the word at the end of one line to the beginning
of the next, only preserving the syllables always
as wholes, for the law of Latin writing does
not suffer them to be cut into. It is said that
the Emperor Augustus did not have the custom
of dividing words, nor did he transfer the overflowing
letters of the end of his lines on to the
next, but that he put them immediately under
the line and round about it.
Manr. We will gladly imitate that, as it is the example
of a king.
Teacher. You may well do so. For how could you otherwise
satisfy yourselves that you had any connection
with him (lit., that you are sprung from his
blood)? But you must not join all the letters,
nor must you separate all. There are those
which must be ranged with one another, as
those with tails, e.g., a, l, u, together with
others, and so the speared letters, e.g., f and
t. There are others which don’t permit of
this, viz., the circle-shaped p, o, b. As much
as possible keep your head erect in writing,
for if you bend and stoop, humours flow down
on to the forehead and eyes, whence many
diseases are born and whence too may come
weakness of eyes. Now receive another copy
and put it on paper for to-morrow, God
willing (Deo propitio). As Ovid says
(Remedia Amoris, 93):
Sed propera, nec te venturas differ in horas,
Qui non est hodie, cras minus aptus erit.
46
and as Martial says (de Notario):
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Currant verba licet, manus est velocior illis,
Nondum lingua suum, dextra peregit opus.
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Mend. Do you wish that we should imitate this blur?
Teacher. The blurs of correction certainly—and what
else is marked.
Mend. In the meantime we wish you the best of health.
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Bellinus, Malvenda, Joannius, Gomezulus
This dialogue (as its inscription indicates) has two divisions.
The earlier part is a paraphrase of the first dialogue, for he
treats of almost the same things as there, but more copiously:
he describes the manner of putting on one’s clothes or dressing
one’s self, and the kinds of clothes. The second part contains
the morning constitutional, and includes a noteworthy
description of spring as it reveals itself to all the senses.
Mal.
Nempe haec adsidue? Iam clarum mane fenestras
intrat et angustas extendit lumine rimas: stertimus
indomitum quod despumare Falernum sufficiat.48
(Persius, iii. 1–1.)
Bell. It is plain to be seen that you are not in possession
of your senses, for if you were, you would not
be awake so long before morning, nor pour out
verses, like a satyr’s, by which you disclose
your frenzy.
Mal. Then hear some epigrammatic verses, with no bite
in them and yet full of salt (edentulos et
salsos).
Surgite iam pueris vendit ientacula pistor
Cristataeque sonant undique lucis aves.
49.
Martial, 223.
Bell. The call of breakfast would drive off sleep from me
more quickly than any din of thine.
Mal. Most happy jester, I wish you good morning.
Bell. And I wish you good night, and a good brain to be
able to sleep as well as you speak with fluent
oratory.
Mal. I beg you, answer me seriously, if you are ever able
to answer seriously, what o’clock do you
think it is now?
Bell. Midnight, or a little after.
Mal. By what clock?
Bell. That in my house.
Mal. Where is your house-clock? You would have to
get or see a clock which had every hour for
sleeping, eating, and playing, but which had
none for studying.
Bell. Yet I have a clock by me.
Mal. Where? Produce it.
Bell. In my eyes. See, such as cannot be opened by
any force. I beg of you, fall asleep again, or
at least be quiet.
Mal. What in the name of evil is this drowsiness or,
more truly, lethargy, and, in a certain sense,
death? How long do you think we have
slept?
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Bell. Two hours, or at the most three.
Mal. Three times three.
Bell. How is this possible?
Mal. Gomezulus, run along to the sun-dial of the
Franciscans and see what hour it is.
Bell. Sun-dial, forsooth! When the sun has not as yet
risen.
Mal. Risen, indeed! Come here, boy. Open that glass
window that the sun with his beams may fall
upon this fellow’s eyes. Everything is full of
the sun and the shadows are getting less.
Bell. What has the rising or setting of the sun to do
with you? Let it rise earlier than you, since
it has a longer day’s journey to accomplish
than you have.
Mal. Gomezulus, run quickly to St. Peter’s, and there
look both on the mechanical clock (horologio
machinali), and on the style of the sun-dial
to tell what time it is.
Gom. I have looked at both. By the sun-clock the
shadow is yet a little distant from the second
line. By the mechanical clock the hand
points to a little after the hour of five.
Bell. What do you say? What else remains for you to
do but fetch me the blacksmith from Stone
Street, that he may separate my eye-lids by
pincers so firmly stuck together? Tell him,
that he has to force a door lever, from which
the key has been lost.
Gom. Where does he live?
Mal. The boy will be going in earnest. Leave off joking
and get up.
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Bell. Well, let us get up, since you are so obstinate in
mind. Ah! what a vexatious companion you
are! Rouse me up, Christ, from the sleep of
sin to the watchfulness of justice! Take me
from the night of death into the light of life.
Amen.
Mal. May this day proceed happily for you!
Bell. And for you, too, the same, and very many more
as joyful and prosperous, i.e., may you so pass
through it that you neither harm the virtue
of any one, nor may any one harm yours.
Boy, bring me a clean shirt, for this one I have
already worn for six whole days. There,
snatch that flea on the leap. Now leave off
the hunt. How small a matter it would be to
have killed a single flea in this chamber!
Mal. As much as to take a drop of water out of the
river Dilia (at Louvain).
Bell. Or yet from the ocean-sea itself. I won’t have the
shirt with the creased collar, but the other one
with the smooth collar. For what are these
creases otherwise at this time of the year than
nests or receptacles for lice and fleas.
Mal. Stupid! You will then suddenly become rich,
possessing both white and black stock.
Bell. Property abounding in quantity rather than of
value in itself, and companions I would rather
see in the neighbourhood than in my house!
Order the maid to sew again the side of this
shirt, and that with silk thread.
Gom. She hasn’t any.
Bell. Then with flax or with wool, or even if she pleases
with hemp. Never has this maid what is
necessary; of what is unnecessary she has
more than enough. But you, Gomezulus, I
don’t want you to be a prophet. Carry out
my order and report to me. Don’t foretell
what will happen. Shake the dust out of the
stockings and then clean them carefully with
that hard fly-brush. Give me clean socks, for
these are now moist and smell of the feet.
φεῦ, take them away, the smell annoys me
terribly.
Gom. Do you wish an under-garment?
Bell. No, for by the light of the sun I gather that the
day will be hot. But reach me that velvet
doublet with the half sleeves of silken cloth,
and the light tunic of British cloth with long
cloth cords.
Mal. Or rather German cloth. But what is the meaning
of all this, whereby you think of making
yourself so extraordinarily smart, beyond
your custom—especially when it is not a
feast-day? And you ask also for country
shoe-straps.
Bell. And you? Why have you put on your smooth
silk, fresh from the tailor’s, although you have
your goat’s-hair clothes and your well-worn
clothes of Damascus.
Mal. I have sent them to be repaired.
Bell. I indeed rather consider ease in my clothes than
ornament. These little hooks and knobs are
out of their place. You always loosen them
wrongly and thoughtlessly.
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Mal. I rather use buttons and holes, which are more of
an ornament, and less burdensome for putting
on and taking off one’s clothes.
Bell. Every one has not the same judgment on this
any more than on other matters. Put down
this breast-covering here in the box, and don’t
bring it out again during the whole of the
summer. These straps have quite lost their
strength. This belt is unsewn and torn to
pieces. See that it is mended, but take care
that no unshapely knots are sewn on.
Gom. This will not be done for at least an hour and a
half.
Bell. Then stick a needle through it, so that it doesn’t
hang down. Give me the garters.
Gom. Here they are! I have got ready for you your
shoes and the sandals with the long latchets.
I have shaken off the dust from them well.
Bell. Rather wipe off the dirt from the shoes and polish
them.
Mal. Is the ligula (shoe latchet) in the shoe? Concerning
this word there has been a very sharp
controversy amongst grammarians, as there
usually is about everything, whether it should
be called ligula or lingula (a little tongue).
Bell. The strap is sewn on the Spanish shoes over the
top of the sole. Here they do not wear it so.
Mal. And in Spain they have given up arranging it so,
because they now wear their shoes in the
French fashion.
Bell. Let me have your ivory comb.
Mal. Where is your wooden one—the one from Paris?
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Bell. Did you not hear me yesterday scolding
Gomezulus?
Mal. Do you call beating a person scolding him?
Bell. This was the reason. He had broken five or six
of the thick and of the thin teeth of the comb—almost
broken them all to pieces.
Mal. I have lately read that a certain author stated
that we should comb the head with an ivory
comb forty times from the forehead to the top
and then to the back of the head. What are
you doing? That is not combing but stroking.
Let me have the comb.
Bell. Nor is that combing, but shaving or sweeping. I
think your head is made of bricks.
Mal. And I think yours is of butter—so that you dare
not touch it closely.
Bell. Are you willing, then, that we should have a
butting match with our heads?
Mal. I am not willing to have a senseless contest with
you, nor to engage my good mind against your
witless one. Now at length wash well your
hands and face, but especially the mouth, that
you may speak more clearly.
Bell. Would that I could cleanse my mind as quickly as
my hands! Give me the wash-hand-basin.
Mal. Rub together more diligently the knuckles of your
hands, to which there sticks the thickest dirt.
Bell. You are mistaken, for I think it is rather discoloured
and wrinkled skin. Pour the water
in these hand-basins, Gomezulus, into that
sink and give me that net-bag and that striped
cap. Bring now my boots (ocreas, lit. greaves).
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Gom. Travelling boots?
Bell. No, my city boots.
Gom. Do you wish your Spanish cap and the long
mantle?
Bell. Are we going out of doors?
Mal. Why not?
Bell. Bring then the travelling cloak.
Mal. Then at last we will go out, so as not to let slip by
the time for having a walk.
Bell. Lead us, Christ, in the ways which are pleasing to
Thee, in the name of the Father, the Son, and
the Holy Spirit. Amen. Oh, how beautiful is
the dawn! truly rosy and golden, as the poets
call it. How I rejoice to have arisen. Let us
go out of the city.
Mal. Yes, let us go. For I have not stepped foot out
of the city gate for a whole week. But
whither shall we first go, and after that which
way shall we take?
Bell. To the citadel, or to the Carthusian Monastery?
Mal. Or to the meadows of St. James?
Bell. No, not there in the morning; rather in the
evening.
Mal. To the Carthusian Monastery, then, past the Franciscan
Monastery and the Recreation Grounds,
thence through the Brussels gate, then we will
return by the Carthusian Monastery to divine
service. See, here is Joannius. A greeting to
you, Joannius!
Joan. The warmest of greetings to you! What an
unusual thing is this that you should be stirring
so early?
Bell. I was bound in the deepest sleep, but Malvenda
here, by shouting and pinching me, tore me
from my bed.
Joan. He did rightly, for this walk in the country will
revive you and freshen you up. Let us go
on the green walk (the Pomerium). O marvellous
and adorable Creator of beauty so
great; this world is not inappropriately called
Mundus and by the Greeks Κόσμος, as if it
were decked and made elegant with beauty.
Mal. Don’t let us take our walk as if in a rush, but
slowly and gently. Please let us make the
circuit of the city walls twice or three times so
that we may contemplate so splendid a view
the more peacefully and freely.
Joan. Observe, there is no sense which has not a lordly
enjoyment! First, the eyes! What varied
colours, what clothing of the earth and trees,
what tapestry! What paintings are comparable
with this view? Here are natural and
real things; the representations are artificial
and false. Not without truth has the Spanish
poet, Juan de Mena, called May the painter of
the Earth. Then, the ear. How delightful
to hear the singing of birds, and especially
the nightingale! Listen to her as she sings
in the thicket, from whom, as Pliny says,
issues the modulated sound of the completed
science of music. Attend accurately
and you will note all varieties of sounds. At
one time there is no pause in them, but
continuously, with breath held equably over a
long time without change, the bird sings on.
Now it changes tone! Now it sings in shorter
and sharper tones! Now it draws in its tones
and, as it were, makes its voice tremulous!
Now it stretches out its voice and now it calls
it back! At other times it sings long and, as
it were, heroical verses; at other times, short
sapphics, and at intervals very short, as in
adonics. In very fact you have, as it were,
the whole study and school of music in the
nightingale. The little ones ponder and listen
to the verses, which they imitate. The little
bird listens with keen intentness (would that
our teachers received like attention!) and
gives back the sound. And then, again, they
are silent.
The correction by example and a certain
criticism from the teacher-bird are closely
observed. But Nature leads them aright, whilst
human beings exercise their will wrongly. Add
to this there is a sweet scent breathing in from
every side, from the meadows, from the crops,
and from the trees, even from the fallow-land
and neglected fields! Whatsoever you lift to
your mouth has its relish, as even from the
very air itself, like the earliest and softest
honey.
Mal. This seems to me to be accounted for by what I
have heard said by some, that in the month of
May, bees are wont to gather their honey from
celestial dew.
Joan. This was the opinion of many. If you wish anything
to be offered to the touch, what softer or
more healthful than the air we breathe on
every side? For by its bracing breath it
infuses itself through the veins and the whole
body. Some verses of Vergil on spring come
into my mind which I will hum to you, if you
can listen to my voice, which I am afraid
sounds more like that of a goose than of a
swan—although, for my part, I would rather
have a goose’s voice than that of a swan, who
only sings sweetly if he is just approaching
his fate.
Bell. I, indeed, as far as I may answer on my own
behalf, have a keen desire to hear the verses,
with any voice you like, if only you will give us
an explanation of the verses.
Mal. My opinion is not otherwise from that of Bellinus.
Joan.
Non alios prima crescentis origine mundi
Inluxisse dies, aliumve habuisse tenorem
Crediderim: ver illud erat: ver magnus agebat
Orbis, et hybernis parcebant flatibus Euri,
Quum primae lucem pecudes hausêre, virumque
Terrea progenies duris caput extulit arvis,
Immissaeque ferae sylvis et sidera caelo.
Nec res hunc tenerae possent perferre laborem
Si non tanta quies iret frigusque caloremque
Inter, et exciperet caeli indulgentia terras.
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Georgics, ii. 336–336.
Bell. I have not quite followed it.
Mal. And I still less, as I think.
Joan. Learn the verses thoroughly, or you won’t understand
them, for they are taken from the depths
of philosophy, as are very many others of that
poet.
Mal. We will question the schoolmaster Orbilius
about them, for here he is coming to meet us.
Joan. He is by no means the man to meet the difficulty.
Let us just salute him and let him go his
way, for he is a fierce man, fond of flogging
(plagosus), imbued with a vast haughtiness,
instead of being learned in literature, although
he has seriously persuaded himself that he is
the Alpha of learned teachers. Moreover, we
have only spoken of the body. How greatly
are the soul and mind exhilarated and aroused
by such an early morning as this! There is
no time so suitable for good learning, for
observing things, and for attentively listening
to what is said, and whatever you read; nor
is it otherwise with reflection and with thinking
a problem out, whatever it may be. You
can give your mind to it. Not undeservedly
has it been said: “The dawn (Aurora) is most
pleasing to the Muses.”
Bell. But let me tell you I’m famishing with hunger.
Let us get back home to breakfast.
Mal. What then will you have?
Bell. Bread, butter, cherries, waxen-coloured prunes,
which so greatly seem to have pleased our
Spaniards that they call all plums by this
name.51 Or should they not have such food at
home, we will pluck some leaves of the ox-tongue
(buglossa), and we will add some sage
in place of butter.
Mal. Shall we have wine to drink?
Bell. By no means—but beer, and that of the weakest,
of yellow Lyons, or else pure and liquid water,
drawn from the Latin or Greek well.
Mal. Which do you call the Latin well and the Greek
well?
Bell. Vives is accustomed to call the well close to the
gate the Greek well; that one farther off he
calls the Latin well. He will give you his
reasons for the names when you meet him.
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Jocundus, Leo, Vitruvius
In this dialogue Vives describes the whole house and its parts,
one by one, through the logical form of distribution of the whole
into its parts. Concerning the details, see the books of Vitruvius
on architecture, and Grapaldus.
The interlocutors were distinguished architects. Vitruvius
is an author of antiquity; the other two are more recent. The
one, Johannes Jocundus Veronensis, wrote, amongst other monuments
of a not inelegant mind, a work on the Commentaries of
Julius Caesar. The other, Baptista Albertus Leo, distinguished
himself in an equally great degree.
Joc. Have you any knowledge of the occupier of this
spacious and elegant house?
Leo. Most certainly; for he is a relation of the man-servant
of my father.
Joc. We will ask him to open the whole house to us, for
they say that nothing could be more pleasant
and delightful.
Leo. Let us go to it, and ring the little bell at the door,
so as not to burst in unexpected. (Tat-tat.)
Vitruvius Insularius.52 Who is there?
Leo. It is I.
Vitr. Hail! most welcome, sweetest boy! What brings
you here now?
Leo. I come from school.
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Vitr. But for what reason are you here?
Leo. My friend here and I would very much like to see
over your house.
Vitr. Why, haven’t you seen it before now?
Leo. No, not all of it.
Vitr. Come in. Eh! boy, bring me the key for the
doors of the house. First, this is the entrance-hall
(vestibulum). It stands open the whole
day, without guard, for it is not within the
house, yet also it is not outside, though it is
closed at night. Observe the magnificent door,
the leaves of which are of oak and fitted with
brass, and both the foot-piece and head-piece
of the doorway are made of alabaster marble.
In former times Hercules was set up at the door
of the house to ward off mischief (ἀλεξίκακος).
But here we place Christ, the true God, for
Hercules was but a cruel and evil man. With
Christ as guard no evil will enter into the house.
Joc. Οὐδὲ οὖν δεσπότης αὐτός (so not even its master).
Vitr. What is that he said in Greek?
Joc. Why should so many evil persons enter in?
Vitr. Well, if evil persons do get in, they can then bring
nothing evil in with them.
Leo. Don’t you have any door-angels?
Vitr. The custom has gone out in some nations.
Next comes the door of the entrance hall,
which the hall servant (atriensis servus) answers.
He is the chief of the servants, as the house-boy
(mediastinus) is the least in position. Then
comes the spacious hall for walking in, and in it
are numerous and varied pictures.
Joc. Please, what are they all about?
Vitr. That is a representation of the foundations of
the heavens (coeli facies ichnographica). That
shows the plan of the earth and sea. There
you have the world newly discovered by
Spanish navigations. In that picture you see
Lucretia as she is killing herself.53
Joc. Please, what is she saying, for even as she is dying
she seems to say something?
Vitr. “Many are astounded at my deed because it is not
every one who has suffered such a grief.”
Joc. I understand what she says.
Leo. What is the meaning of this picture delineated
with such varied figures?
Vitr. It is a sketch of this house. Draw back the covering
from that picture. There!
Joc. What does it represent? A little old man who is
sucking his wife’s breast?
Vitr. Hast thou not read of this subject in the chapter
on Piety in Valerius Maximus.54
Joc. What does she say?
Vitr. “I do not yet pay back as much as I have
received.”
Joc. What does the old man say?
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Vitr. “I rejoice that I have been born.” Let us step
up these winding-stairs. The steps one by one,
as you see, are broad and were made of whole
pieces of basalt-marble. This first story is the
dwelling of the master, the upper story is for
guests; not as if my master had a garret on
lease far away, but there it is furnished for his
guest friends always in order and free, unless
filled already with guests. This is the dining-room.
Joc. Good Christ! what transparent window panes
these are and how artistically painted they are
in shaded outlines! What colours! How
life-like! What pictures, what statues, what
wainscoting! What is the story pourtrayed
on the panes?
Vitr. The fall of Griselda, which John Boccaccio wrote
so aptly and skilfully; but my master has
decided to add a true story to this fiction,
which excels the story of Griselda, viz., that
of Godelina of Flanders and the English Queen
Catharine of Aragon. The first of the statues
is the Apostle Paul.
Joc. What is the inscription of the sculpture?
Vitr. “How much we owe thee, O Christ.”
Joc. What does he say himself?
Vitr. “By the grace of God I am what I am and His
grace which was bestowed on me, was not in
vain.” The other statue is Mutius Scaevola.
Joc. But he is not mute even if he is called Mutius.
What is the inscription on his statue?
Vitr. “This fire will not burn me up because another
greater one burns in me.” The third statue
is Helen; the writing states: “Oh, would that
I always had been such a statue, then should I
have wrought less harm.”
Joc. What is the meaning of the old blind bald-headed
man who points his finger at Helen?
Vitr. That is Homer, who says to Helen: “Thy ill
deed has been well sung by me.”
Joc. Look, the wainscoting is gilded, and here and there
decked with pearls.
Vitr. There are all kinds of pearls, but of small worth.
Joc. What do we look on from the windows?
Vitr. These windows look into the gardens, those into the
court. This is the summer-house or garden
dining-room. Here you see a sleeping-room or
chamber. The sleeping-room is furnished with
tapestry, with a pavement wainscoted and
covered with rush-mats. There are some
pictures of the Holy Virgin, of Christ the
Saviour, and there are others of Narcissus,
Euryalus, Adonis, Polyxena, who are said to
have been of the highest beauty.
Joc. What is written on the upper lintel of the door?
Vitr. “Withdraw from your troubles and enter the
haven of peace.”
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Joc. What is written inside the door-post?
Vitr. “Bring into this haven no tempest.” The most
necessary house utensils are kept in that closed
chamber. The other is the winter chamber.
As you see, everything there is darker and
better covered. Then there is a sweating
chamber.
Joc. It is bigger in my opinion than the dining-room
would lead one to expect.
Vitr. Don’t you notice that the inner sleeping-room is
heated by the same steam-pipe?
Joc. They say that if sleeping-rooms had no chimney
flue they would be warmer.
Vitr. It is not usual to have them in the air-holes.
Joc. What is that room, so elegantly vaulted?
Vitr. It is the chapel (lararium) or sanctuary (sacellum)
in which divine service (res divina) is held.
Joc. Where is the latrina?
Vitr. We have it up in the granary out of the way. In
the sleeping-rooms my master uses basins,
pans, and chamber-crockery.
Joc. How beautifully and artistically made are all these
little towers and pyramids and columns and
weathercocks!
Vitr. We will now go down. This is the kitchen; this
the eating-chamber; here is the wine-cellar
and the larder, where we are annoyed by the
attempts of thieves to get in.
Joc. How can thieves get in here? It is, as it seems to
me, so carefully closed in, and the windows
have iron gratings?
Vitr. Through chinks and borings.
Leo. There are also mice and weasels who strip you of
all kinds of food!
Vitr. This is the back-door of the house, which, when
the master is not at home, is always fastened
with two bars, both locked and bolted.
Leo. Why have these windows no iron bars?
Vitr. Because they are only rarely open and they abut,
as you see, on a narrow and dark by-street.
Rarely any one puts his head out of the
window. Therefore my master has decided
that he will have them latticed.
Leo. With what kind of bars?
Vitr. Perhaps with wooden bars. It is not yet certain.
In the meantime this fastening suffices.
Joc. What high columns and a portico full of majesty!
See how these Atlantides and Caryatides seem
to strive to support the building against falling,
whilst really they are doing nothing.
Leo. There are many people like them, who appear to
accomplish great things when they are in
reality leading leisurely and sluggish lives;
drones who enjoy the fruits of the labours of
others. But what is that house there below,
adjoining this, but badly built and full of
cracks?
Vitr. It is the old house. Because it had cracks and
had great lack of repair, my master decided to
have this new one built, from the foundation.
That old one is now a resting-place for birds
and the habitation of rats, but we shall soon
take it down.
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Tyro, Spudaeus
In this dialogue the school is described in six parts, as
teachers, honours, hours of learning and repetition, books,
library, the disputation. The name Tyro is that of the crude
novice, a metaphor taken from military affairs of those as yet
unskilled in war, to whom are opposed the veterani. Spudaeus
is in Greek the diligent and industrious person, a name worthy
of one who is studious.
Tyro. What a delightful and magnificent school! I
suppose there is not in the whole academy any
part more excellent.
Spud. You judge rightly; add, also, what is of
more importance, that elsewhere there are
no more cultured and prudent teachers, who
with such dexterity pass on their learning.
Tyro. It behoves us then to repay their trouble by
attaining great knowledge.
Spud. And this indeed by great shortening of the labour
of learning!
Tyro. What does the schooling cost?
Spud. You can at once give up so base and unreasonable
a question. Can one in a matter of so
great moment inquire as to payment? The very
teachers themselves do not bargain for reward,
nor is it suitable for their pupils to even think
about it. For what reward could be adequate?
Have you never heard the declaration
of Aristotle that gods, parents, and masters
can never be sufficiently recompensed? God
created the whole man, the parents gave the
body birth, the masters form the mind.
Tyro. What do those masters teach, and for how long?
Spud. Each one has his separate class-room and the
masters are for various subjects. Some impart
with labour and drudgery the whole day
long the elements of the art of grammar;
others take more advanced work in the same
subject; others propound rhetoric, dialectic,
and the remaining branches of knowledge,
which are called liberal or noble arts.
Tyro. Why are they so-called?
Spud. Because every noble-minded person must be
instructed in them. They are in contrast to
the illiberal subjects of the market-place
which are practised by the labour of the body
or hands, which pertain to slaves and men who
have but little wit. Amongst scholars some
are “tyrones” and others “batalarii.”
Tyro. What do these names signify?
Spud. Both these names are taken from the art of warfare.
“Tyro” is an old word used with
regard to the one who is beginning the practice
of war. “Batalarius” is the French name of
the soldier who has already once been in a
fight (which they call a battle) and has engaged
in a close fight and has raised his hand against
the foe, and so in the literary contests at
Paris, “batalarius” has begun to signify the
man who has disputed publicly in any art.
Teachers are chosen from them, and are
called “licentiates,” because it is permitted
them to teach, or, better still, they might be
termed “designate,” i.e., the men marked out.
At least they have taken the doctorate.
Before the whole university, a hat is placed on
their head as a sign that they have had their
freedom conferred on them, and become
emeriti. This is the supreme honour and the
highest grade of dignity.
Tyro. Who is that with so great a company round him,
before whom march staff-bearers with silver
staffs?
Spud. That is the Principal (Rector) of the Academy.
Many are drawn to him because of the honour
they bear him in his office.
Tyro. How often in the day are the boys taught?
Spud. Several times. One hour before sunrise; two
hours in the morning; two hours in the afternoon.
Tyro. So often?
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Spud. An old custom of the Academy so establishes it.
And in addition the scholars repeat and think
over what they have received in instruction
from their masters, like as if they were chewing
the cud of their lessons.
Tyro. With so much noise over it?
Spud. Such is now their practice!
Tyro. To what purpose?
Spud. So as to learn.
Tyro. On the contrary, so as to shout. For they don’t
seem to meditate on their studies, but to be
preparing themselves for the office of public
crier. That one there is clearly raving. For
if he had a sound brain, he would neither so call
out, nor gesticulate, nor so distort himself.
Spud. They are Spaniards and Frenchmen, somewhat
impetuous, and as they hold divers opinions,
they contend the more warmly as if for their
hearths and altars, as it is said.
Tyro. What! are the teachers here of different opinions?
Spud. Sometimes they teach contradictory views.
Tyro. What authors are they interpreting?
Spud. Not all the same, but each one as he is furnished
with skill and knowledge. The most erudite
teachers take to themselves the best authors
with the sharpest judgment, those whom you
grammarians call classics. There are those
who, on account of their ignorance of what is
better, descend to the lowest (ad proletarios)
and are worthy of condemnation.
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Let us enter. I will show you the public
library of this school. It looks, according to
the precept of great men, to the east.
Tyro. Wonderful! How many books, how many good
authors, Greek and Latin orators, poets,
historians, philosophers, theologians, and the
busts of authors!
Spud. And indeed, as far as could be done, delineated
to the life and so much the more valuable!
All the book-cases and book-shelves are of
oak or cypress and with their own little chains.
The books themselves for the most part are
bound in parchment and adorned with various
colours.
Tyro. What is that first one with rustic face and nose
turned-up?
Spud. Read the inscription.
Tyro. It is Socrates and he says: “Why do I appear
in this library when I have written nothing?”
Spud. Those who follow him, Plato and Xenophon,
answer: “Because thou hast said what others
wrote.” It would take long to go through the
things here, one by one.
Tyro. Pray what are those books thrown on a great
heap there?
Spud. The Catholicon, Alexander, Hugutio, Papias,
disputations in dialectics, and books of
sophistries in physics. These are the books
which I called “worthy of condemnation.”
Tyro. Nay rather, they are condemned to violent death!
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Spud. They are all thrown out. Let him take them
who will; he will free us of a troublesome
burden.
Tyro. Oh, how many asses would be necessary for carrying
them away! I am astonished that they
have not been taken away, when there is so
great an assembly of asses everywhere. Somewhere
in that heap the books of Bartolus and
Baldus are lying together and others of that
quality (hujus farinae).
Spud. Say rather of that coarseness (furfuris). The
loss would not be hurtful to the tranquillity of
mankind.
Tyro. Look, who are those with those flowing hoods?
Spud. Let us go down. They are “batalarii,” going to
the disputation.
Tyro. Please lead us thither.
Spud. Step in, but quietly and reverently. Uncover
your head and watch attentively all, one by
one, for there is a discussion beginning on
weighty matters which will conduce greatly to
one’s knowledge. That one whom you see
sitting alone in the highest seat is the president
(praeses) of the disputation and the judge of
the disputes, so to say, the Agonotheta. His
first duty is to appoint the place for each of
the contenders, lest there should be any disorder
or confusion, if one or other should want
to take precedence.
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Tyro. What is the meaning of the skin-covering of his
toga?
Spud. It is his doctor’s robe, the emblem of his position
and dignity. He is a man of whom there are
few so learned, who, by the choice of the
candidates in theology, carried off the first prize,
and by the most learned of the faculty is regarded
as the first among them.
Tyro. They say that Bardus was the first choice in his
year.
Spud. He beat all his competitors by canvassing and
craft, not by his knowledge.
Tyro. Who is that thin and pallid man they all rush
upon?
2. The Propugnator. 3. The Oppugnator (a smart man)—The
Vapid Man—The Smooth Man.
Spud. He is the propugnator, who will receive the
attack of all, and who has become thin and
pale by his immoderate night-watches. He
has done great things in philosophy and is
advanced in theology. But now you must be
quiet and listen, for he who is now making the
attack is accustomed to think out his arguments
most acutely and subtly, and presses
most keenly the propugnator, and, in the
opinion of all, is compared with the very highest
in this discipline, and often compels his antagonist
to recant. Notice how the latter has
tried to elude him, but how the oppugnator has
met him effectively by his irrefutable reasoning,
and how the propugnator cannot escape him!
This arrow cannot be avoided. His argument
is like an invincible Achilles. It enters the
neck of the opponent. The propugnator cannot
protect himself and soon will give in (manus
dabit) unless some god suggests a subterfuge
to his mind. Behold, the question is brought
to an end by the decision of the judge
(decretor). Now I loosen your tongue to speak
as you wish. For he who now attacks is as
vapid wine, and contends as with a leaden
dagger, yet he shouts louder than the rest.
Notice, and you will see that he grows hoarse
from the encounter. Though his weapons are
repulsed, he presses on none the less pertinaciously,
but without effect; nor does any one
wish to have the reversion to his argument, or
to have him assuaged by the answer of the
defender or the president. He who now
enters the contest effeminately begs the judge
for his permission, and speaks with courtesy,
though he argues ineffectively and always
leaves off tired, even gasping, as if he had gone
through the unpleasant business with fortitude.
Let us depart.
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Plinius, Epictetus, Celsus, Dydimus
In this dialogue Vives treats of two matters: in the first place
he describes night-studies with adjuncts of time, causes, and
subjects; then the bed, its apparatus and adjuncts. The assisting
causes (causae adjuvantes) of night-study are lights, the
night-study gown, Minerva or Christ, table, bookcase, reader
(anagnostes), a scribe (exceptor), pens, sand-case (theca pulveraria).
The subjects are Cicero, Demosthenes, Nazianzenus, Xenophon.
The apparatus of the bed consists in a mattress, a bolster,
cushions, sheets, coverlets, curtains, mosquito-curtain, hangings,
rugs. Adjuncts are—gnats, fleas, lice, bugs, a striking clock, a
folding seat, a pot, a lyre. The names of the persons are aptly
allotted, for they were the four most learned and studious men,
concerning whom Volaterranus has written in his Anthropologia.
Plinius wrote De Historia Naturali, in xxxvii. books. He was the
uncle of the other Pliny whose letters are still extant. The
latter writes thus to Marcus, of his uncle: “He was sharp-witted,
of incredible studiousness, of the highest vigilance, most
sparing of sleep. After food (which he used to take in the daytime,
of a light and easily digestible kind, according to the
custom of the ancients), if he had leisure, often in the
summer, he would lie in the sun. Then read his book, annotate
it, and make extracts. He never read without making
extracts. He was even accustomed to say that no book was so
bad as not to be profitable in some part of it. I remember once
when a reader had pronounced something wrongly, one of his
friends had the man called up and made him repeat it, whereupon
my uncle said: ‘You understood, forsooth?’ He nodded.
‘Then why have the passage recalled? We have lost more than
ten verses by this interruption.’ So great was his economy of
time. This, too, in the midst of his labours in the noise of the
town. Even in the retirement of his bath he spent his time in
studies. When I say the bath, I speak of the inner parts of the
house generally. For whilst he was stretching himself or drying
himself, he used to listen to reading or to dictate. On a
journey, as if relieved from other cares, he occupied himself in
study only. At his side was an amanuensis with a book and
writing tablets, whose hands were furnished in winter with
gloves, so that by no roughness of weather should any time be
snatched from studies. For the same reason, when at Rome, he
was carried about in a chair. I recall that I was reproved by
him when I went for a walk. ‘Are you not able,’ said he, ‘not
to waste your time?’ For he thought all time wasted which
was not devoted to studies.” For an account of his death, see
an epistle by the same writer to Tacitus.
Epictetus (as the epigram concerning him testifies) was both a
slave and lame. He was poorer than Irus.55 But in wisdom
and equanimity of mind and constancy (as records about him
testify) he was admirable and almost divine. But he was the
servant of Epaphroditus the freedman of the Emperor Nero.
Celsus was a renowned physician, whose works are still extant,
whose excellent dictum was: “That many grave diseases are
cured by abstinence and quiet.”
Dydimus, the grammarian, on account of the almost incredible
number of books which he is said to have written, is called
χαλκέντερος, as if having intestines of brass, i.e., he was remarkably
patient and indefatigable in labour. He (as also Origen)
was called Adamantinus. On this same matter see Proverb:
Adamantinus and Chalcenterus and the lamp of Aristophanes
and Cleanthes.
Plin. It is five o’clock in the afternoon. Epictetus,
shut me the window and bring me light. I
will work with a light.
Epict. What light do you wish?
Plin. For the time being, whilst others are present,
tallow or wax candles; when they have
retired, take them away and place here for me
the lampstand.
Cels. What for?
Plin. For working.
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Cels. Don’t you study better in the morning? Then it
seems to me the season of the time and the
condition of the body invite study, since at
that time there is the least exhalation from the
brain, digestion having been completed.
Plin. But this hour is very quiet, when every one has
gone to rest and everything is silent, and for
those who eat at mid-day and morning it is
not inconvenient. Some follow the old custom
and only eat one meal and that in the evening;
others merely at mid-day, according to the
advice of the new doctors; and again others
both mid-day and evening, according to the
usage of the Goths.
Cels. But were there no mid-day meals before the
Goths?
Plin. There were, but light meals. The Goths introduced
the custom of eating to satiety twice a
day.
Cels. On that account Plato condemned the meal-times
of the Syracusans, who had two good meals
every day.
Plin. For that very reason you may conclude that
people like the Syracusans were very rare.
Cels. Enough of them! Why do you prefer to work
with a lamp than a candle?
Plin. On account of the equable flame, which less tries
the eyes, for the flicker of the wick injures the
eyes and the odour of the tallow is unpleasant.
Cels. Then use wax candles, the odour of which is not
displeasing.
Plin. In them the wick is more flickering and the
vapour is no more healthy. In the tallow
lights the wick is for the most part of linen and
not of cotton, as the tradesmen seek to make
a profit on all these things by fraud. Pour
oil into this lamp, bring a candle and take out
the wick and clean it.
Epict. Notice how the lampblack sticks to the needle.
They say this is a sign of rain, in the same
manner as we find in Vergil:—
Scintillare oleum et putres concrescere fungos.
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Plin. Bring hither also the snuffers and clean this
candle. But don’t throw the black on the
floor lest it smoke, but press it into the
snuffers-box whilst it is held together. Bring
me my dressing-gown, that long one lined
with skin.
Cels. I will provide you with your books. May Minerva
be favourable to you!
Plin. May Paul or, what I should rather have said, may
Jesus Christ, the Wisdom of God, be with me.
Cels. Perhaps Christ is adumbrated in the fable of
Minerva and that of the birth from Jupiter’s
brain.
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Plin. Place the table on the supports in the sleeping-chamber.
Cels. Do you prefer the table to the desk?
Plin. At this time, yes; but place a small desk on the
table.
Epict. A self-standing one or a movable one?
Plin. Which you like. But where is the Dydimus of
my studies?
Cels. I will summon him thither.
Plin. Fetch also my boy-scribe. For I should like to
dictate something. Give me those reed-pens
and two or three feather pens, those with thick
stalk, and the sand-case. Bring me also from
the chest the Cicero and Demosthenes, and
from the desk, the book in which I make all my
notes and important extracts. Do you hear?
And my extemporaneous MS. book in which I
will polish up some passages.
Dyd. I believe the MS. book is not in the desk but in
the chest, locked up.
Plin. Do you yourself search for it. And bring me the
Nazianzenus.
Dyd. I don’t know it.
Plin. The book is of slight thickness, sewn together and
roughly bound in parchment. Bring also
the volume, the fifth from the end.
Dyd. What is its title?
Plin. Xenophon’s Commentaries. The book is in
finished style. It is bound in leather with
fastenings and knobs of copper.
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Dyd. I don’t find it.
Plin. Now I remember. I put it in the fourth case.
Fetch it. In the same case there are only
loose sheets and rough books just as they have
come straight from the press.
Dyd. Which volume of Cicero do you want, for there are
four?
Plin. The second.
Epict. It is not yet back from the book-gluer, who had
it, I believe, five days ago to glue.
Dyd. How do you like that pen?
Plin. On that point I am not very particular; whatever
comes into my hand I use it as if it were
good.
Dyd. You have learned that from Cicero.
Plin. You just be quiet. Open me the Cicero. Look
me up three or four pages of the Tusculan
Questions. Seek the passages on gentleness
and joy.
Epict. Whose verses are these?
Plin. They are his own translations of Sophocles. This
he does with keen pleasure and therefore often.
Epict. He was, I think, sufficiently apt in writing verses.
Dyd. Most apt and facile, and, for his time, not unhappy
in his verse, contrary to what very many think.
Epict. But wherefore hast thou left off pursuing the art
of poetry?
Plin. I hope that we yet at times may take it up again
in leisure hours, for there is much alleviation
in it from more serious studies. I am already
weary of studies, meditation, writing. Stretch
out my bed.
Epict. In which sleeping-room?
Plin. In the big square room. Take away the reclining
cushion out of the corner, and put it in
the dining-room. Place over the feather-bed
another of wool. See also that the supports of
the bed are sufficiently firm.
Epict. What is it that is troubling you? For you don’t
lie on one part or other of the frame-work, but
in the middle of the bed. It would be more
healthy for you if the bed were harder and one
which would offer resistance to your body.
Plin. Take the head-pillow away, and instead of it put
two cushions, and in this heat I prefer that
lightly woven, to the linen, cloth.
Epict. Without bed-covering!
Plin. Yes.
Epict. You will get cold, for the body is exhausted by
studies.
Plin. Then put on a light covering.
Epict. These? And no more?
Plin. No. If I feel cold in bed, then I will ask for more
clothes. Take away the curtains, for I prefer
a mosquito-net for the keeping off of gnats, a
net of fine gauze (conopeum).
Epict. I have noticed but few gnats, though of fleas and
lice a pretty fair number.
Plin. I am surprised that you notice anything particularly,
for you sleep and snore so soundly.
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Epict. No one sleeps better than he who does not feel
how badly he is sleeping.
Plin. None of the insects with which we are troubled in
bed in summer disgust me so much as the
bugs because of their ghastly odour.
Epict. Of which there is a good supply in Paris and
Lyons.
Plin. At Paris there is a kind of wood which produces
them, and in Lyons the potter’s earth.
Place my alarum-clock here, and place the
pointer for four o’clock in the morning, for I
don’t wish to sleep later. Take my shoes off,
and place here the folding-chair in which I
may sit. Let the chamber-crockery be set
near the bed on a foot-stool. I don’t know
what it is that causes a bad smell here. Fumigate
with frankincense or juniper. Sing to
me something on the lyre as I go to bed after
the custom of Pythagoras, so that I may the
more quickly fall asleep, and my dreams may
be the more peaceful.
Epict.
Somne, quies rerum, placidissime, somne, deorum,
Pax animi, quem cura fugit, qui corpora duris
Fessa ministeriis mulces, reparasque labori.
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Ovid, Metamorph. book xi. ll. 623–623.
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Lucullus, Apicius, Pistillarius, Abligurinus
In this dialogue Vives describes the matters which concern the
kitchen. Nor is it any disgrace for a noble youth to be able to
call things, one by one, by their right names, as also the
interpreter of Aristophanes thinks in the Acharnians:—
ἔστι δὲ τοῦτο ἀστεῖον καὶ πεπαιδευμένῳ ἀρμόξον, μήδε τῶν κατὰ τὴν
οἰκίαν σκευ ῶν τῆς καθημερινῆς χρείας, ἀγνοεῖν τὰ ὀνόματα.58
The names of the interlocutors are aptly chosen, as is always
the case. Lucullus and Apicius are fit names of men noted for
luxury. As to Lucullus, see Plutarch in his Lucullus and
Athenaeus, book xii., who says that he:—
τρυφῆς πρῶτον εἰς ἅπαν Ῥωμαίοις ἡγεμόνα γενέσθαι.59
Also in Book iv. he says:—
τὸν’ Ἀπίκιον περὶ ἀσωτίᾳ πάντας ἀνθρώπους ὑπερηκοντικέναι.60
Pistillarius and Abligurinus are fictitious names; the former
from the pounder of a mortar, and as if the epithet for an obtuse
man; the latter from a “licking away,” as of a gourmand. This
dialogue may be divided into three parts, the management of the
kitchen by Apicius, his precepts, and songs.
Luc. Are you an eating-house keeper (popino)?
Apic. I am.
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Luc. Where do you work?
Apic. At the eating-house called the Poultry-Cock
(galli gallinacei). Do you want my services?
Luc. Yes, for a wedding.
Apic. Let me then hasten home, so that I may give
instructions to my wife how to treat the gourmandisers
(whom I know are not wont to be
lacking in this city) and their guests who are
invited.
Luc. Do you hear? You will find me in the Stone
Street—in the shoemakers’ district.
Apic. I will soon be with you.
Luc. Very well. Get to your cook-shop.
Apic. Hallo! Pistillarius and Abligurinus, make a fire
with big logs on the hearth under the flue, and
let them be as dry as possible.
Pist. Do you think you are at Rome? Here we have
not stalls for the sale of dry wood from which
dry logs can be got. But this which I have
will be dry enough.
Apic. If you don’t get it dry enough, Abligurinus, you
will, by your work of blowing up the flame, lose
your eyesight.
Ablig. Then I shall drink so much the more freely.
Curse the wine!
Apic. Curse the water! For you shall not touch wine
to-day if I keep in my right mind. I am not
going to let you overturn the vessels, and
break the small pots to pieces, and ruin the
food.
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Ablig. This fire won’t burn!
Apic. Throw in a small bundle of sticks smeared in
brimstone, and kindling-wood, together with
some chips.
Ablig. It is quite gone out.
Apic. Run across to the next house with the shovel and
bring us a great big firebrand and some good
live coal.
Ablig. The master of that house is a metal-worker, nor
does he let a single piece of coal be taken from
his furnaces but he has his eye on it (citius
oculum).
Apic. He is not a metal-worker, but a metal-cutter; go
therefore to the oven. What are you bringing
there? This is not a firebrand; it is rather a
torch (titionem magis quam torrem).
Ablig. They have not got burning coal.
Apic. What bad coal! You should rather call it turf.
Move these logs and stir the kindling wood
with this poker so that it may gather flame.
Use the pyrolabum (the tongs), you ass!
Ablig. What thing does that word signify?
Apic. Forceps ignaria (tongs for the fire), a pruniceps (a
fire-stirrer).
Ablig. Why do you give me words in Greek, as if there
were not Latin words for the things?
Apic. Are asses also grammarians?
Ablig. What wonder, since grammarians are certainly
asses.
Apic. Make an end of wrangling. I want some coals or
pieces of turf lighting for me on this hearth,
for cooking the cakes baked in earthen cups.
Hang the bronze vessel over the fire so that
we can have plenty of hot water. Then
throw into the cooking-pot that shoulder of
mutton with the salted beef; add calf and
lamb flesh, and stir the cooking vessel on the
fire. In the chytropus61 we will thoroughly
boil the rice.
Ablig. What shall we do with the chickens?
Apic. They shall be cooked in brazen pots which are
lined with tin, so that they may have a more
pleasant taste. But don’t bring them too
soon; the meat-spits and the pans should be
forthcoming about nine o’clock. Let this
pike play about in the water a little, then skin
him.
Ablig. Are there to be meat and fish at the same meal?
Apic. Decidedly, according to the German fashion.
Ablig. And is this approved by the doctors?
Apic. It is not in accordance with the art of medicine,
but it will please the doctors. I thought this
block of a man (stips) was merely a grammarian;
he is also a doctor.
Ablig. Have you never heard of that question: Whether
there are in a city more doctors or fools?
Apic. Who has thrust you into the kitchen, when you
are such a salted herring (saperda)?
Ablig. My adverse fate.
Apic. Nay, what is quite clear,—it is thy sluggishness,
carelessness, voracity, thy throat and thy
stomach, thy degenerate and debased soul.
Therefore must thou now run about with
naked feet, half-clothed, in old torn garments
which don’t cover you behind.
Ablig. What has my poverty got to do with you?
Apic. Nothing at all, and I should not like it to concern
me. But to work! And outside of work let
us have no more talk than necessary. Are
my orders not sufficient? Nothing apparently
can be enough for you in the way of closely
laying down and insisting over and over again
on what is to be done. Give me my cooking-trousers.
I want to go out of doors, but I will
soon be back. Give me also, please, the olive-crusher
(tudicula), the badge of our art. This
is my thunderbolt and trident.
Pist. Hallo, Abligurinus, place those jugs on the urn-table
and wash this beef steadily, and give it a
good rubbing in the basin.
Ablig. Have you any other orders to give? One commander
is sufficient for one camp, but it does
not seem to be sufficient for one kitchen. Do
it all yourself. You are a sharper exactor of
work than the master of the cook-shop himself.
For the future I won’t call you Pistillarius
(a pounder with the pestle), but a sharp
sting (stimulus acutus).
Pist. Nay, rather call me Onocentron (the spur of
asses). Cut up then this calf’s flesh on this
flesh-board. Also powder the cheese so that
we can sprinkle it over this dumpling.
Ablig. How? With the hand?
Pist. No, but with the grater. Pour a few drops of oil
in from the cruse.
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Ablig. Do you mean from this flask?
Pist. Place here the mortar.
Ablig. Which of them?
Pist. That brazen one with the pestle of the same metal.
Ablig. What for?
Pist. For grinding rock-parsley.
Ablig. This is done more satisfactorily in a marble
mortar with a wooden pestle.
Pist. Please sing us a song, as you are wont to do.
Ablig.
Ego nolo Caesar esse,
Ambulare per Britannos,
Scythicas pati pruinas.
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Ut sapiant fatuae Fabiorum prandia betae,
O quam saepe petet vina piperque coquus.
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Martial’s Epigrams, 13, 13.
Pist. Do you say the Fabii or the fabri?
Ablig. On that point inquire of the bandy-legged schoolmaster
and you will get for your Fabii and
fabri a sound blow on the cheek or the back.
Pist. Is that the sort of man?
Ablig. He is a determined, courageous man, prompt
with blows. He compensates for the slowness
of his tongue by the swiftness of his hands.
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Pist. Here, bring the beer-jug. My palate, throat,
gullet are parched with thirst.
Ablig.
Et gravis attrita pendebat cantharus ansa.
65
Vergil, Eclogue, 6, 17.
Claudere quae coenas lactuca solebat avorum,
Dic mihi, cur nostros inchoat illa dapes?
66
Martial, Epigram, 13, 14.
Filia Picenae venio Lucanica porcae,
Pultibus hinc niveis grata corona datur.
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Martial, Epigram, 13, 35.
Apic. Where hast thou thus learnt to ῥαψωδεῖν?
Ablig. Lately I served a schoolmaster in Calabria who
was a poetaster. He often used to give me no
other meal than a song of a hundred verses, in
which he used to say there was a wonderful
savour. I, indeed, would rather have had a
little bread and cheese. There was, however,
enough water for the house, and we had permission
to drink from the well to our heart’s
content. If I then had gone hungry to bed,
instead of food I chewed those verses and
digested them. Nor did there seem to me to
be any other remedy to drive away the keenness
of hunger (bulimia) than to betake
myself to the art of cookery.
Apic. What services did you render that schoolmaster?
Ablig. Such as Caesar rendered to the Republic. I was
everything to him. I was his counsellor,
though he had nothing to advise about; he
had nothing secret from me, not even in his
personal habits. I used to pour water on his
hand, which he never used to wash himself.
I served him as his treasurer.
Apic. What treasure had he?
Ablig. He had a few sheets of the trashiest poems which
the moths used to eat away and barbarian
mice gnawed at.
Apic. Nay, say learned mice, since they bit their teeth
into bad poems.
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Aristippus, Lurco
This dialogue is connected with the two following dialogues.
For this contains descriptions of the master of a feast and his
dining-room, the next of the banquet itself, and the third,
drunkenness. It has two parts—the introduction and description
(narratio). Triclinium is so called from having three dining-couches
(lectus). For, of old, those about to breakfast or dine
were accustomed to arrange couches for lying on, for the most
part three. See Castilionius in book 6; Vitruvius, cap. 5;
Baysius de Vasculis. Aristippus was the disciple of Socrates,
from whom was derived the Cyrenaic teaching. For he lived in
ease, sumptuously, voluptuously. He sought out every luxury
of perfumes, clothes, women, and counted life happy in so far
as it was full of pleasure.
παριόντα ποτε αὐτὸν λάχανα πλύνων Διογένης
ἔσκωψε καί φησιν: εἰ ταῦτα ἔμαθες προσφέρεοθαι
οὐκ ἂν τυράννων αὐλὰς ἐθεράπευες. Ὁ δέ, καὶ σύ, εἶπεν,
εἴπερ ᾔδεις ἀνθρώποις ὁμιλεῖν, οὐκ ἂν λάχανα ἔπλυνες.
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Diog. Laert. i. 68.
Arist. Why are you so late getting up and, indeed, still
half-asleep?
Lurc. I am surprised that I have waked up at all the
whole of this day, since yesterday we were
eating and drinking.
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Arist. Nay, as it appears, you were simply gorging,
gourmandising, and overwhelming yourself
with sumptuous dishes and wine. But where
was it you were thus loading your swift-sailing
ship?
Lurc. At the house of Scopas, at a banquet (convivium).
Arist. Nay, rather, according to the manner of the
Greeks, call it a συμπόσιον than by the Latin
word convivium.
Lurc. One brawler aroused another to speech. Olives
and sauces pricked and pinched the sated
stomach, and would not let the appetite get
wearied out.
Arist. Pray tell us all the courses so that by hearing of
them I can imagine that I was there, and as if I
were drinking with you, as that man who ate
two great loaves of bread in a Spanish inn, and
enjoyed the exhalation of a roasted partridge,
in place of further viands.
Lurc. Who could tell all? This would be a greater
undertaking than to have bought the food, or
prepared it, or what would have beaten everything
in difficulty, to have eaten it all up.
Arist. Let us sit down here in this willow-plantation, by
the bank of this little stream, and, since we are
tired, let us talk of your yesterday’s dining
out, instead of other things. The grass will
serve us for bolsters. Lean on that elm-tree.
Lurc. On the grass? Won’t the moisture harm us?
Arist. How stupid! moisture, when the dog-star is
rising!
Lurc. Formerly I refused; now my mind desires to tell
you yet more than you ask. You inquire from
me as to the banquet; you shall also hear as
to the host and the dining-room. You asked
that I would speak; I will do so that, soon
perhaps, you will ask, proclaim, command
silence, as was the case with the Arabian flute-player
who was induced to sing for an obolus,
but was only brought to silence by receiving
three.
Arist. Say as much as thou wishest of the feast; I shall
not be pained by it, since we are now sitting in
a shady place, and the goldfinch there accompanies
thy narrative, or at least will bring
harmony into it, as the slaves with the flute
did into the speech of C. Gracchus.69
Lurc. What was that story?
Arist. When you have finished your account of the
feast you shall have the story of the Gracchi,
of the graculi,70 and the Graeculi.
Lurc. We were going for a walk by chance across
the market (forum), Thrasybulus and I. We
happened to have got more leisure than is
usual with us. Scopas joined us. When he
had made his first salutations, and started a
suave conversation, Scopas began earnestly to
entreat us that we would, on the next day,
which was yesterday, go to his house. First
we excused ourselves, the one for one reason,
the other for another; I, on account of an
important engagement with a magistrate
(praetor), a very irritable gentleman. But
Scopas, a man who likes to boast of his wealth,
began an elaborate speech, as if his life
were in question. What need of further
words? We said yes, so that he should not
continue to worry us.
Arist. Do you know why he arranged the banquet?
Lurc. What was it, pray, do you suppose?
Arist. He is indeed himself a rich man, well provided
with silver, clothes, and house-provisions.
But he had bought three gilded silver phials
and six cups. These would have lost their
value to him, had he not invited some guests
to whom he might show them. For he believes
that it is in the ostentation of wealth that
its pleasure consists. He is driven on to profuse
expenditure by his wife, who calls it
magnificence.
Lurc. Yesterday, then, about mid-day we came together
to his dining-room.
Arist. What kind of a lunch was it?
Lurc. In the open air, in the cool shade. All was
splendidly prepared, decorated, polished up.
Nothing was lacking in elegance, splendour,
and magnificence. Immediately on entrance,
our eyes and souls were exhilarated by the
most beautiful and most pleasant sights.
There was a great sideboard, full of beautiful
vases of all kinds, of gold, silver, crystal, glass,
ivory, myrrh-wood; also others of more
common material, tin, horn, bone, wood, shell,
or earthenware, in which art lent a merit
to the commonness of the material, for there
were very many pieces of embossed work,
all brightly cleaned and polished; the glitter
almost dazzled the eyes. You might have seen
there two great silver wash-hand-basins with
gilded borders. The middle part together with
the ornaments about it were of gold. Every
basin had its outlet whose bung was gilded.
There stood there also another water-basin of
glass, similarly with gilded pipe, as well as an
earthenware wash-basin varnished with red
sandarach,71 a piece of work of the Spanish city
of Malaca. Besides, there were phials of
every kind and two silver ones for the most
generous kind of wines.
Arist. From my own experience I prefer flasks of glass
or of shells, which they call stone-ware.
Lurc. What are you to do? Such is the nature of man!
He does not in these things seek so much
convenience as the opinion of being thought
rich.
Arist. These very rich people pretty often seem so to
others whilst to themselves they seem poor.
So there is no end of bringing forward, and
presenting, to the eyes of others, their possessions.
Especially is this so with those who
have no other kind of skill in which they can
trust. But proceed.
Lurc. The border of the sideboard was covered with a
shaggy carpet brought from Turkey. At a
distance from the sideboard there were placed
two small tables with quadrants and silver
orbs. Every one had his salt-cellar, knife,
bread, and napkin. Under the sideboard
stood a refrigerator and large wine-decanters.
Then they had various kinds of seats, settles,
double-seats, benches, and the seat of the lady
of the house, arranged so as to fold up, a noteworthy
piece of work with silken upholstery,
and provided with a foot-stool.
Arist. Lay the table now, and unfold the napkins, for
my vitals cry out for hunger.
Lurc. The dining-table was large. It was inlaid with
ancient mosaic work. It had belonged to
the Prince Dicæarchus.
Arist. O old table, what a different master is yours now!
Lurc. He had bought the table at an auction sale at a
sufficiently high price, only because it had
belonged to the prince, and he would thus
have something that had been his. Water is
given for the washing of hands. At first
there are great mutual refusings and invitations
and yielding by turns.
Arist. The same thing happened in all this yielding of
dignity, when each one made himself of less
account than the other, and exalted the other
with the haughtiest courteousness, whilst in
reality every one thought himself more important
than all the rest.
Lurc. But the host, by his own right, allotted the seats.
Grace was said by a little boy briefly and perfunctorily,
but not without rhythm:—
Quod appositum est et apponetur, Christus benedicere dignetur.
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Each one unfolds his napkin and throws it over
the left shoulder. Then he cleans his bread
with his knife, in case he did not think it had
been sufficiently cleaned by the servant, for it
had been placed before him with the crust
taken off.
Arist. Did you sit in ease?
Lurc. Never with more ease.
Arist. You couldn’t get a poor lunch. For the eatables
had been supplied to redundancy, so far as
ever the market had them; this I know.
Lurc. In no place has this more certainly happened.
But the very abundance palled. The director
of the table busied himself with laying knives
and forks. Then came in, with great pomp,
the chief steward with a long band of boys,
younger and older, who bore away the dishes
of the first course.
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Scopas, Simonides, Crito, Democritus, Polaemon
Concerning Scopas, see Cicero, book 2, de Orat. As to Polaemon,
see Val. Max. bk. 6, cap. 11. There are three kinds of
banquets, είλαπίνη, a magnificent and splendid banquet; γάμος,
a nuptial banquet; and ἔρανος, when each guest came at his
own expense and brought his own food. Homer links together
those forms of banquets: εἰλαπίνη ἠὲ γάμος· ἐπεὶ οὐκ ἔρανος τάδε
γ’ ἐστί (Odyssea, i. 226).
The parts of this dialogue are these: Initium, apparatus,
finis. Apparatus contains two courses.
COURSES
| First |
{ |
Cibus |
{ |
Panis Obsonia |
{ |
Carnes Pultes Pisces |
| Potus |
{ |
Vinum Aqua Cerevisia Pocula |
| Second |
{ |
Fructus Casei Tragemata |
Scop. Where is our Simonides?
Crit. He said he would come immediately after he had
met a debtor of his in the market.
Scop. He does rightly. He will more easily get away
from a debtor than he would from a creditor.
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Crit. How is this?
Scop. It is as in a victory, the victor imposes the conditions,
not the vanquished. The debtor
comes away from the creditor when he will,
the creditor when the debtor is willing. But
have you not all met, as you arranged, and
left the seriousness of home, bringing with you
cheerfulness, wit, grace, pleasantness?
Crit. Clearly these things are so, I hope, and we will be
as M. Varro advises, an agreeable company.
Scop. Let the rest be my concern.
Crit. Here is Simonides coming!
Scop. Happy event!
Sim. All prosperity to you!
Scop. We have keenly desired you!
Sim. Ah, how boorish it all is! But you see I was invited
to lunch, not for a period of detention in
business. But have I really kept you waiting
long?
Scop. No, indeed not.
Sim. Why did you not set to the meal without me?
At least you could have begun with the fruit
which I am not much given to eating.
Scop. Courteous words, but how could we sit down
without you?
Crit. Enough of civilities. Let us begin our description.
The best and lightest of bread! It is as light
in weight as a sponge. The wheat is soft as
a medlar. You must have an industrious
miller.
Scop. Roscius has the mill in his charge.
Sim. Is he never hurled into it?
Scop. Far be such a fate from such a thrifty servant!
Dem. Pass me the coarse bread (made of unbolted
flour).
Sim. And me the bread made of the middle quality of
foreign wheat.
Scop. Why do you wish that?
Sim. Because I have both heard and found from experience
that I eat less when the bread has not a
fine taste.
Scop. Here, boy, bring him common bread, and even
the black bread if he prefers. We will have
the most pleasant of meals, if every one shall
take what most pleases him.
Pol. This bread, which you praise so much, is spongy,
watery; I prefer it thicker.
Crit. I indeed don’t dislike it spongy—so long as it
isn’t hastily made. But this also has cracks
such as cakes baked on the hearth are accustomed
to have, although, as is sufficiently
clear, this came out of the oven.
Pol. This black bread is both sour and full of chaff;
you would say that it was from flour of second-rate
wheat.
Scop. So our husbandmen are accustomed to do with
all wheat which they bring hither; first to
make it pungent with the common, and to mix
it with all kinds of seeds; the taste then comes
from the leaven being excessive.
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Pol. No class of men are more deceptive than husbandmen.
They only act wrongly through ignorance.
Crit. This bread is not sufficiently fermented.
Dem. For to-day think thyself a Jew, one of those who,
by the ordinance of God, only feed on bread
which is unleavened.
Crit. And this, indeed, was because they were such
very bad men that the eating of swine was forbidden
them, than which nothing is more
pleasing to the palate; nor if taken moderately
is anything more healthful. With unleavened
bread sauces must be eaten together with
field lettuce, which is extremely bitter.
Pol. All this has too much depth of meaning. Let us
leave the subject.
Scop. Yes, indeed, and the whole discussion about
bread! If there is so much difference of
opinion about what is eaten with bread, how
much discord there will be over every part of
the menu of the whole meal!
Crit. It happens, forsooth, as Horace says:—
Tres mihi convivae prope dissentire videntur,
Poscentes vario multum diversa palato.
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Scop. Bring those dishes and plates with the cherries,
plums, pomegranates, ripe fruit, and early ripe
fruit.
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Pol. Why did Varro say that the number of guests
ought not to exceed the number of the Muses,
when the number of the Muses is not settled?
For some put the number at three; others six;
others nine.
Crit. He spoke as if it were established that there were
nine, and so it was commonly accepted.
Whence Diogenes made his joke at the expense
of the schoolmaster, who had only a
small number of scholars in the school, whilst
he had the Muses painted on the walls. The
master, said he, has many scholars, if you
reckon in the Muses (σὺν ταῖς μοῦσαις).
Dem. But is it true that the Persians introduced into
Greece the fruit which they regarded as so
deadly as to be a pestilence to those against
whom they were waging war?
Crit. So I have heard.
Dem. How wonderful is the variety of products in the
different nature of soils!
Crit. India sends ivory, says Vergil,74 the effeminate
Sabaeans their frankincense. Oh! look at
those Persian quinces!
Sim. This is a new kind of grafting which the ancients
did not know of. Reach me the bowl with the
hard-skinned figs, which are, as you know,
early ripe.
Scop. Enough of the fruits! Let us be filled with more
healthful foods of the body.
Crit. What is, then, healthier?
Scop. Nothing, if to be health-giving and of good
taste are the same thing as in a mid-day
dream.
Crit. I forgive fruits their harmfulness on account of
their pleasantness of taste.
Scop. Do you remember the verse of Cato?
Pauca voluptati debentur; plura saluti.
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Give every one a platter of meat with sauce, so
that he may swallow it down, and this will
warm the intestines and pleasantly wash and
so soften the body.
Sim. Here, boy, give me at once some salted pork. Oh!
most savoury leg of pork! It is a barrow-hog.
If you can hear what I say, return
the cabbage and bacon, to the cook, at this
season of the year, or preserve it till the
winter. Cut me a couple of bits off this
sausage, so that the first cup of wine may taste
the sweeter.
Crit. Let us follow the advice of physicians that wine
be taken with pork. Pour out wine.
Scop. Now follows action after talk. Surely this is
wisest at this time of the year. Look at
the necessary preparations for our drinking
wine. First of all the keeper of the sideboard
(custos abaci) has set out the cups of brightest
crystal glass with purest white wine; you
would think it water by its mere appearance.
It is San Martin wine and partly Rhein wine,
but not mixed as they are accustomed to
drink it in Belgium, but such as they drink
in mid-Germany. The wine-seller to-day has
tapped two casks, one of yellow Helvell from
the neighbourhood of Paris, and one of blood-red
Bordeaux. Others are in readiness kept
cool, dark (fuscus) from Aquitaine and black
from Saguntum. Let every one choose according
to his liking.
Crit. What suggestion could be more delightful? as
nothing is harder fortune than to perish of thirst.
For myself I should prefer that you had set
before us the best water. I would rather
have heard such an announcement than that
of the wines.
Scop. Nor shall that be lacking.
Sim. Lately when I was in Rome, I drank at a cardinal’s
house, the noblest wines of every flavour;
sweet, sharp, mild, fruity, and tart. I was
indeed extremely friendly with the wine-cellarer.
Dem. I dearly like fiery wine.
Pol. So also do Belgian women. In some places in
France they offer you the dregs of wine.
They most delight in two and three year old
vintage. But these are rather sampling of wine
than real wine-drinking, and French wine
especially bears neither the addition of water
nor years. Therefore soon after it is racked off
it is drunk. Indeed, in a year it begins to get
worse, and becomes uncertain, then its flavour
escapes and it becomes sour. Had it been
kept longer it would become mouldy and flat.
The Spanish and Italian wines, on the other
hand, improve with age, and with the addition
of water.
Dem. What do you mean by wine getting “flat”?
The casks become shrunken, the wine is
enclosed in cells, and the casing of the cask
falls in, if need be.
Pol. Like as fruit gets uneatable through decay by age
and does not keep, and, as we say commonly,
goes bad. The opposite term is “still wine”
(consistens).
Dem. Pour me first a half-cupful of water and then
pour in the wine, after the old custom.
Crit. Nay, to-day’s custom is yet the same with many
people, the French and Germans being exceptions.
Dem. The nations who drink water with wine pour wine
to the water; those who will drink wine
watered, pour water on to the wine.
Crit. And what do those drink who mix no water with
their wine?
Dem. Pure, unmixed wine.
Crit. That is, if the wine-dealer did not first water it
himself.
Pol. They call that baptising it, so that the wine should
be Christian. This was in my time a fine,
philosophical way of speaking.
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Dem. They baptise the wine, and themselves are unbaptised
(i.e., unwatered or unwashed).
Pol. They do worse to wine who add chalk, sulphur,
honey, alum, and other more noisome things
than which nothing is more pernicious to one’s
body. Against such people the state ought to
proceed as against robbers or assassins. For
thence are incredible kinds of diseases and
especially gout.
Crit. By conspiracy with physicians they can do this.
Then both share the profit.
Dem. The cup you reach to me is too full. Empty it a
little, I beg, so that there may be a space for
water.
Crit. Pour me wine in that chestnut-coloured cup.
What is that?
Scop. A great Indian nut, surrounded with a silver edge.
Won’t you drink out of that bowl of ebony
wood? They say that this is the healthiest.
But don’t give me too much water. Don’t
you know the old proverb: “You spoil wine
when you pour water into it”?
Dem. Yes, then you spoil both the water and the wine.
Pol. I would rather spoil both, than be spoiled by one
of them.
Scop. Would it not be pleasant, according to the Greek
custom, to drink out of the bowls and from
the bigger beakers?
Pol. By no means. You reminded us just now of the
old proverb. In my turn I remind you of the
Pauline precept: “Be not drunk with wine,
wherein is excess”; and that of our Saviour:
“And take heed to yourselves lest at any time
your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting
and drunkenness.”
Crit. Whence is this cold water, so pure and pellucid?
Scop. Out of the spring near by here.
Crit. Rather than mixing of wine I prefer cistern water,
if it is thoroughly pure.
Dem. What do you think of spring-drawn water?
Crit. It is more appropriate for washing purposes than
for drinking.
Pol. Very many people commend flowing water.
Crit. And quite rightly if the streams flow through
gold veins, as in Spain, and the water is peaceful
and clear.
Sim. Bring me in that Samian phial some beer which,
in this heat, should be very good for refreshing
one’s body.
Scop. Which sort of beer will you have?
Sim. The lightest you have, for other kinds muddle the
mind too much and make the body too fat.
Pol. Give me some also, but in the round glass.
Scop. Run to the kitchen and see what they are waiting
for. Why don’t they send another course?
You see that already no one further tastes
of this. Bring young cocks cooked with
lettuce, garden oxtongue, and endive; also
mutton and calf’s flesh.
Crit. Add also a little mustard or rock-parsley in small
dishes.
Dem. Mustard seems to me a strong (violenta) food.
Crit. It is not suitable for bilious people, but is not
without its usefulness for those who abound in
thick and cold humours.
Pol. Therefore are the countries of northern latitudes
wise in using it, for whom it is of great service,
especially with thick and hard food, e.g., with
beef and salted fish.
Scop. In this place, I think broth and rice come seasonably,
also ash-coloured bread, fine wheaten
bread, starch-food, rice, “little worms” (vermiculi).
Let every one take according to his
taste.
Dem. I have seen those who shuddered terribly at
“little worms” because they believed they
were out of the earth and from mud, and had
previously been alive.
Crit. Such people deserve to have these “worms”
come to life again in their stomachs. They
say that rice is born in water and dies in wine.
Give me, therefore, wine.
Dem. Drink not immediately after warm food. Eat
first something cold and solid.
Crit. What?
Dem. A crust of bread, or a rissole or two of meat.
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Sim. Bah! fish and meat at the same sitting! To mix
earth and sea. This is forbidden by physicians.
Scop. Nay, rather physicians are pleased by it.
Sim. I think it is because it is profitable to them.
Scop. Why, then, do the physicians forbid it?
Sim. I have made a mistake. I ought to have said
that it is prohibited by the art of medicine,
not by physicians. But what sort of fish is
this?
Scop. Place them in order. The first is roasted pike
with vinegar and capers, then turbot cooked
with the juice of pointed sorrel, fried soles, a
fresh pike and a capito (large-headed fish)—the
salted pike serve for yourself—fresh
roasted and salted tunny-fish, fresh maenae
(small sea fish) fried, pasties, in which are
many bearded-fishes, murenae, and trout, with
suitable relishes, fried gudgeon and boiled
lobsters and crabs. Mingle with them dishes
with garlic, pepper, mustard, pounded up.
Sim. I will indeed speak of the fish, but not eat of
them.
Crit. If a philosopher begins to conduct a controversy
on fish, i.e., on a most uncertain, debatable
question, then let us have a bed set up, so
that we can sleep here.
Scop. No one is worthy to even taste these dishes.
Take them away.
Sim. And yet formerly banquets at Rome were most
splendid and they were accustomed to say that
sumptuous ones were given which consisted
entirely of fish.
Crit. Thus have times changed, although this custom
also lasts with some people.
Scop. Bring up roasted chickens, partridges, thrushes,
ducklings, teal, wood-pigeons, rabbits, hares,
calf’s flesh, kids, and sauce or flavours,
vinegar, oil, fruit penetrating in its medical
properties, also citrons, olives from the Balearic
Islands, preserved, pressed, and kept in pickle.
Dem. Are no Bethica (district of Spain) olives there?
Scop. Those from the Balearic Islands taste better.
Crit. What will happen to those big animals there, the
goose, the swan, the peacock?
Scop. Merely show them, and take them back to the
kitchen.
Pol. See there a peacock! Where is Q. Hortensius
who held a peacock for such a delicacy?76
Sim. Take the lamb-meat away.
Scop. Why?
Sim. Because it is unsound. They say it does not go
out by any other way than that it entered.
Crit. I have seen someone who swallowed olive stones
like an ostrich.
Scop. From what meat are those pasties made?
Crit. This here is stag’s flesh.
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Scop. This is deer’s flesh; and that there, I believe, is
boar’s flesh.
Crit. I prefer the condiments to meat itself.
Sim. And that is clearly right, for spice renders the
sourest things sweet.
Crit. What is the spice of the whole of life?
Dem. An equable mind.
Crit. I can name something else, which is of larger
scope and more august.
Dem. What can be more important than what I have
named?
Crit. Pietas, under which equanimity is included.
Moreover, “piety” is the most suitable and
pleasant sauce for all things hard and easy,
and those things which lie between these
extremes.
Scop. Pour white Spanish wine in that beaker and bear
it round to the guests.
Dem. What are you preparing to do? When dinner is
finished, bring us some strong and generous
wine. We can afterwards drink something
more diluted, if we wish to take care of our
health.
Sim. Thy counsel seems to me good, for it behoves us
to have colder food at the end of a meal,
which by its weight may thrust down the other
food to the bottom of the stomach, and may
restrain the vapours from escaping to the head.
Scop. Take away those things; change the round and
square plates, and lay the second table
(dessert). For no one is anywhere further
stretching forth his hand to the dishes.
Crit. I have eaten so heartily from the beginning that
I have quite lost all further appetite.
Dem. I also have no more appetite, but I was led on by
the desire of the fruit dishes here, and so have
eaten to satiety.
Pol. I have eaten I don’t know how much fish. This
has repulsed all my appetite.
Sim. And is there so much of splendid dainties and
delicacies before us when there is no longer the
desire of eating? Pears, apples, and cheese
of many kinds! The most attractive to my
palate is the horse-cheese.
Crit. I believe that it is not horse-cheese at all, but
Phrygian cheese from asses’ milk, such as is
brought from Sicily in the form of columns and
squares. When one is broken, it cleaves into
layers or, as it were, sheets (of paper).
Dem. This cheese is porous as if it were from England,
and will not in my opinion be pleasing to
you.
Crit. Nor will this spongy Dutch cheese. This from
Parma is thicker and, as it seems, fairly fresh,
and that Penasellian (Spanish) will easily vie
with it.
Dem. This cheese is not from Parma but Placentia.
Crit. It also is pleasant. Commonly the cheese dearest
to the Germans is old cheese, putrid, fried up
and wormy.
Sim. He who eats such cheese is hunting for thirst and
he eats in order to drink.
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Scop. The pastry-cook delays too long with his sweets.
Why does he not bring his tarts, his wine-cakes
and cup-cakes and the fried cakes made
of a concoction thrown into a vessel of boiling
oil with honey poured over it?
Crit. Give me a few dates, both some to eat and some
to keep by me. Perhaps I shall to-night eat
nothing else.
Scop. Then take the whole of this branch of them.
Will you have some pomegranates?
Pol. Here, boy, relieve me of these wild dates and give
me something eatable.
Scop. I advise you to drink. Don’t you know that it
was the opinion of Aristotle that the dessert
was introduced into meals to invite us to drinking
lest the food should be digested dry?
Crit. The discoverer must have been either a sailor or
fish to be so much afraid of dryness.
Scop. Take away those things which are ordinarily called
the seal of the stomach, because after them
nothing more is to be eaten or drunk, biscuits,
quince-cakes, coriander covered with sugar.
But such food must be chewed, not eaten.
What remains from the portion chewed must
be spit out, for it is uneatable. Collect the
bits and what remains over in baskets; bring
scented waters, of rose, of the flowers of the
healing apple (citron), and of musk-melon.
Pol. Let us return thanks to Christ.
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The Boy.
Agimus tibi gratias, Pater, qui tam multa ad hominum
usus condidisti: annue, ut tuo favore ad coenam
illam veniamus tuae beatitudinis.77
Pol. Now then let us return thanks to the host.
Crit. Well, you do it.
Pol. Nay, rather Democritus, who is strong on these
points.
Dem. I cannot return thanks as in duty bound to thee,
deserving well of the republic, for all has been
confused by Bacchus, but I will recite what
once Diogenes said to Dionysius; I have committed
his speech to memory. If I have a
lapse of memory or a faltering tongue you will
forgive me after so great a soaking of drink.
Scop. Say what you will; it will be written in wine.
Dem. Thou hast, my Scopas, thyself, thy wife, thy
man-servants and maid-servants, neighbours,
cooks, and pastry-cooks, wearied thyself and
themselves, so that we may become yet more
wearied by eating and drinking. When
Socrates had entered a very crowded market,
he exclaimed wisely, “O immortal gods, how
many things there are here which I don’t
need.” Thou, on the contrary, mightest say,
“What a small part is all this of that which I
need.” The idea of moderation is pleasing to
Nature. Thereon it is formed and supported.
This supply of many and manifold things overwhelms
Nature, as Pliny rightly observes. Manifoldness
of food is injurious to man; yet more
injurious is every sauce. We take hence to
our homes bodies made heavy by these things,
minds oppressed and sunk in food and drinks,
so that we cannot duly perform any human
duty. Do you yourself point out what thanks
we owe you.
Scop. Are these the thanks you have for me? Thus
you pay back so splendid a meal!
Pol. Clearly it is so—for what greater benefit is there
than becoming wiser? You send us home
evidently beasts. We wish to leave you at
home a man, so that you may know how to
consult your own health and that of others and
to live conformably to the desires of Nature,
not following fancies caught up from folly.
Farewell and learn wisdom.
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Asotus, Tricongius, Abstemius, Glaucia
In this dialogue Vives describes the causes and effects of drunkenness.
The occasion of the dialogue is based on Horace, book i.
Epist. 5, where firstly is described the desire to cast away care by
a splendid feast, to drink the best wines freely and in quantities,
for Horace says:
Potare et spargere flores
Incipiam patiarque vel inconsultus haberi.
Then he adds the seven effects of drunkenness. It causes the
disclosure of secrets, renders men confident, makes them bold,
takes away anxiety, brings the fatuous impression of wisdom,
makes men garrulous and loquacious, and in the depth of poverty
renders men dissolute and lavish.
Quid non ebrietas designat? operta recludit:
Spes jubet esse ratas, in praelia trudit inermem.
Sollicitis animis onus eximit, addocet artes.
Foecundi calices quem non fecêre disertum?
Contractâ quem non in paupertate solutum?
Here, again, names of interlocutors are aptly applied. Asotus
(middle vowel long) is a man given up to luxuries of the palate.
In Latin such is called heluo (glutton), nepos (spendthrift),
decoctor (bankrupt). The Greek word comes from a privative
particle, and σώζω; Latin, servo. See Cicero, book 2, de Finibus:
“Nolim asotos, qui in mensam vomant, et qui de conviviis
auferantur, crudique nostridie se rursus ingurgitent; qui solem
(ut aiunt) nec occidentem unquam viderint, nec orientem: qui
consumtis patrimoniis egeant. Nemo istius generis asotos
jucunde putat vivere.”
Concerning Tricongius we have spoken in the dialogue “Garrientes.”
Abstemius is one who does not drink wine, as if held
back, i.e. from wine. There are two parts to the dialogue, the
Exordium, which contains the occasion of the dialogue, and
Narratio, the telling of the story.
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Asot. What do you say, Tricongius? How splendidly
that Brabantian entertained us yesterday!
Tric. A curse on him, for I could not rest the whole
night! I was sick, with all due respect to
you let me say it (sit habitus honos vestris
auribus), and then tossed myself about all over
the bed, now on the inner, then on the outer,
frame of the bed. It seemed to me as if I
should vomit forth throat and stomach. Even
now I cannot use my eyes or ears for headache.
It is as if I had heavy bars of lead lying on my
forehead and eyes.
Asot. Fasten a band round your forehead and temples,
and you will seem to be a king.
Tric. Much rather like Bacchus himself, from whom the
institution of diadems on kings was derived.
Asot. Go home, then, and sleep off the soaking.
Tric. Home, indeed! There is no place I should shun
so much as my home. I should feel too much
aversion to meet my shrieking wife. For if
she were to see me now she would entertain
me with longer homilies than Chrysostom.
Abstem. And this is what you call being treated
splendidly!
Glauc. Clearly so; for your throat and stomach have
been well washed!
Abstem. And the hands too?
Glauc. Not even once.
Asot. Nay, on the contrary, often with wine and milk,
whilst we dipped our hands in one another’s
bowls (pateras).
Glauc. What could be said more splendidly? Fancy the
fingers sticking with the fat of meat and with
sauces.
Abstem. By the gods, keep quiet! Who could listen
without nausea to the unclean business,
much less look upon it, or taste of such wine
or milk.
Asot. By your faith, ye gods! are you so delicate a
man, Abstemius, that you cannot swallow
this even with your ears? What would you
do with your palate, if you were like us? But
listen to me, Tricongius, sweetest fellow-wine-bibber,
let us send some boy to fetch us some
of the same wine in that clay vessel. There
is no surer antidote against this poison.
Tric. Has this been tried?
Asot. Why should it not be so? Don’t you remember
the verses which Colax sings:—
Ad sanandum morsum canis nocturni,
Sume ex pilis eiusdem canis.
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Plautus
Glauc. Tell us, I beg you, all about the banquet.
Abstem. Nay, don’t! unless you wish me to part with
all I have in my stomach, and even the vitals
themselves.
Glauc. Then go away for a short time.
Asot. I will tell you as frankly as possible, but so as
nowhere to go beyond the limits of decency.
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Glauc. Begin, I beseech you. Give your attention,
Abstemius.
Asot. My dear Glaucia, before everything, I am of
opinion that there is no class of men which
can be likened to festive and liberal hosts at
banquets. Some show knowledge of all kinds of
things, i.e., of mere trifles; others show with
pride, experience, and wisdom gathered from
practice. And what of this? There are
people who indeed have wealth, but, wretched
that they are, they don’t dare to spend it.
What they have, they take pleasure in storing
up. A kindly host is everywhere of use,
everywhere is welcome. The very sight of
him is sufficient to heal the sadness of the mind
and scatter it; and if a man has any wretchedness,
the memory of the feast takes it away.
So, too, does the hope and expectation of a
coming feast. All the other so-called mental
blessings I don’t care to look on; they are, to
me, slight and unfruitful.
Abstem. I ask you, Asotus, who is the author of such a
fine sentiment?
Asot. I and all like me, i.e., a host of people from Belgic
France, from the Seine to the Rhine. There
are only a few poor and very sparing men who
think differently, who envy Abstemius his name,
and wish to be called frugal, or else certain
distinguished people who are puffed up with a
great opinion of their own wisdom, i.e., an
empty word, whom we (i.e., the greatest and
chief part of mankind) simply laugh at.
Abstem. What do I hear?
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Glauc. He is quite right, though he is drunk. For
nowhere has scholarship less estimation than
in Belgium. A distinguished man in scholarship
is not otherwise esteemed than one who
is occupied in shoe-making or in weaving.
Abstem. And yet there are many students here who
make not altogether unsatisfactory progress.
Glauc. Yes. Little boys are led by their parents to the
schools as to an operative shop, by which
afterwards they can derive a living. The very
teachers themselves, incredible to say, as little
as the pupils, cherish the occupation they
follow with such slight honour and with such
meagre reward, so that illustrious teachers of
the first rank can scarcely maintain themselves.
Asot. This has nothing to do with the subject of our
conversation. Let us return to the banquet.
Glauc. Yes, I would rather hear about that, but dismiss
this talk about studies, which are certainly
unfruitful. I know not how you Italians
think about scholarship. In my eyes, it seems
to me not only useless but even pernicious
(damnosa).
Abstem. So it seems to an ox and a pig, as it does to you.
We, too, should think the same if we had not
more intelligence than you.
Asot. If we let you go on, there would be no end.
Therefore, listen. First, we all of us reclined,
severe and serious. Grace was said, and
everywhere was silence and quiet. Every one
began to get his knife ready. We put on the
appearance not of eagerness but of restraint
(non invitatorum sed invitorum), so that you
would have said that we were compelled to
eat, and in the act of eating, did it as if
reluctantly, for our mind had not as yet
warmed with the ardour of spontaneity. Each
one placed his napkin over his shoulders; some
indeed in front of their chests. Others spread
the tablecloth over their knees. One takes
bread, looks at it, cleans it, if there is any coal
or cinders lining it. All these things are done
gently and lingeringly (cunctabunde).
Some began the meal by drinking; others,
before they drank, took a little salad and salted
beef to arouse their sleeping appetite and to
stimulate their languor. The first cup was of
beer, so that there might be a cold, firm foundation
underlaid for the warmth of wine. Then
that holy liquor was brought first in narrow and
small cups, which should rather irritate than
assuage thirst. The host was a very festive
man, than whom there was none better in the
whole neighbourhood, nor even his equal, i.e.,
in my opinion (which may be said without
injury to any one). He then orders the largest
of cups to be brought and a beginning was
made of drinking liberally, after the Greek
fashion, as a certain Philo-Greek said, who
once had studied at Lyons. Then we began
to talk, and then to get warm. Everywhere
joviality and laughing became general. Oh,
feasts and nights of the gods! We drank to
one another’s health, and returned like for
like, with great equity. It would have been
unjust to gain a point over one’s companion,
especially at such a time.
Abstem. Rightly, if it were merely a question of a chalice
of wine, but it is one’s senses and intellect
which are in question, the chief possessions of
man. But if we are to talk over so copious
and festive a subject, first I must ask of you
whether you are drunk?
Asot. No, certainly not. This you can easily and truly
see from the connectedness of my talk. Do
you think, if I were drunk, that I could relate
all this in such an orderly fashion?
Abstem. Then it is well, for otherwise I should be contending
with an absent opponent, according to
the verse of Mimus. But tell me now, first,
why don’t you erect a temple in these parts
to Bacchus, the discoverer of this celestial
liquor?
Asot. This is your business; you, who have a temple at
Rome of Sergius and Bacchus. It is sufficient
for us daily to follow his rites, wherever we are.
And perchance we should erect a temple for
him if it were settled he was the discoverer,
for I have heard certain students debate the
question. There are some who think that
Noah was the first who drank wine and was
intoxicated by it.
Abstem. Let us leave that point! Tell us what wine
you had.
Asot. What concerns us is what sort of wine it is and
whence it came. Let it only have the name
and colour of wine, that is sufficient for us.
For these delicacies in wines let the Frenchman
and the Italian seek.
Abstem. What enjoyment can there then be if you don’t
at all taste what you are pouring into your
body?
Tric. Perchance some taste something at the beginning
with the palate whole. But when it becomes
palled from so great a superfluity, things lose
all their taste.
Abstem. If thirst has been quenched, no pleasure
remains. For this consists only in the satisfaction
of natural needs. So it is a kind of
torment to go on drinking when there is no
thirst, or to eat when there is no hunger.
Tric. Don’t you think, then, Abstemius, that we drink
for pleasure or because it is pleasant?
Abstem. Then you are so much worse than beasts, who
are controlled by natural desires, whilst reason
does not govern you, nor nature exercise a
control over you.
Tric. Good fellowship leads us to that point; and in
spite of reason we get drunk little by
little.
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Abstem. How often have you been drunk? how often
do you see others drunk?
Tric. Every day, very many.
Abstem. Don’t then so many experiments satisfy you so
as to put you on your guard against so disgraceful
an event? Even one such experience
would suffice for an animal!
Glauc. But do you know also how dear our companions
are, for whose sake men become beasts?
Whilst drinking they would give their very
hearts for them. When they meet afterwards,
they hardly know them! Their very life and
soul they would not redeem for the sum of a
sesterce.
Abstem. Out of what sort of cups and how did you
quaff the wine?
Asot. In the first place there were brought glass cups;
a little time afterwards, on account of the
danger, these were taken away and silver ones
presented. In the wine at first we put herbs,
which the season of the year provided, a little
time afterwards, flesh-broth, milk, butter, and
pap.
Abstem. Oh, filth, which would not be borne by animals!
Tric. How much more tragically (τραγικὼτερον) you
would call out if you knew that they plunged
their dirty hands into one another’s wine and
cast in the shells of eggs, fruit and nuts, and
the stones of olives and prunes.
Abstem. Cease from this description, if you don’t wish
me to take myself off hence to some woods.
Tric. Listen to me, Glaucia. I will speak in your ear.
Some people carry a hunting-bugle when
taking a journey, which is full of dust, straws,
fluff, and other dirty things. Out of this we
drank.
Glauc. What?
Tric. What, indeed? wine?
Glauc. Nay, rather say your understanding.
Tric. Clearly it is so. And after we had drunk the
understanding we took pots (matuli), not
altogether clean, from off a stool and used
them for cups.
Abstem. How ended the banquet—the story of which
sounds like a fable?
Asot. The floors swam with wine. We were all drunk,
especially the host, a strong man. Two or
three were lying down under the table, overcome
by a great victory.
Abstem. O glorious victory, and in a very beautiful and
glorious conflict! But did wine overcome
every one?
Asot. Even so.
Abstem. Wretched man, what do you think drunkenness
is?
Asot. A fine thing! It is to give oneself up to one’s
genius.
Abstem. Yes, but which genius, your good one or your
bad one?
Glauc. If you will rightly look into all these matters, you
will never find which genius they give themselves
up to. For it is neither to the heart,
nor to pleasure, nor any other cause for which
others indulge, who follow vices and the depraved
desires of the mind. To be drunk is
different. It is to lose the power of the
senses, to go away from the power of reasoning,
of judgment; clearly, from being a man to
become either cattle or, indeed, a stone. What
follows afterwards I can easily imagine, had I
never seen a drunkard; to speak, and not to
know what you are saying; if any secret, of
especial importance not to be divulged, is committed
to you, to blab it out, and to say things
which may lead into grave danger yourself,
your people, and often your whole province
and fatherland, to have no discrimination of
friend and foe, of wife and mother—and it
leads to quarrels, contentions, enmities, snares,
wounds, maiming, killing!
Tric. Even without sword and blood, for not a few
pass on from drunkenness to death.
Glauc. Who would not prefer to be shut up at home
with a dog or a cat than with a drunkard?
For those animals have more intellect in them
than the drunkard.
Abstem. After the drunkenness follows indigestion,
weakening of the nerves, paralysis, the tortures
of gout, heaviness in the head and the
whole body, dulness of all the senses; memory
is extinguished; the sharpness of the intellect
is stunned; thence there is a stupor in the
whole mind which precludes intelligence,
wisdom, and eloquence.
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Asot. Now I begin to understand what a serious evil
drunkenness is; henceforward, I will take the
keenest pains to drink up to the point of cheerfulness,
not to that of drunkenness.
Glauc. Joviality is the gate of drunkenness. No one
comes to be drunk with the idea in his mind
that he will get drunk; but he is exhilarated
by drinking; then going on and on, drunkenness
follows afterwards, for it is difficult to
place the bounds of joviality and to remain in
it. Slippery is the step from joviality to
drunkenness!
Abstem. So long as thou hast the wine in the beaker, it
is in thy power; when thou hast it in thy body,
thou art in the power of the wine. Then you
are held and do not hold. When you drink,
you treat wine as you like. When you have
drunk, it will treat you as it likes.
Asot. What then? Are we never to drink?
Abstem. When fools avoid their vices, they run into the
opposite extremes. We must, indeed, quench
thirst, but not be “drinkers.” Nature on
this point teaches beasts alone. The same
nature will not teach man, because he possesses
reason. You eat when you are hungry; you
drink when you are thirsty. Hunger and
thirst will warn you how much, when, to what
extent, we must eat and drink.
Asot. What if I am always thirsty, and if I cannot
assuage my thirst except by getting drunk?
Abstem. Then drink what cannot possibly make you
drunk.
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Asot. The constitution of my body won’t permit that.
Abstem. If then you had such hunger that by no
amount of food you could satisfy it unless you
were to burst yourself, what then?
Asot. That indeed would not be hunger, but disease.
Abstem. There would surely be need of medicine, not
meals, to take away that hunger, wouldn’t
there?
Asot. Certainly.
Abstem. So needest thou for such a thirst a physician,
not an inn-keeper, and a drug from the chemist,
not one fetched from the providers of banquets.
What you describe is not thirst but disease,
and a perilous one, too!
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Agrius, Sophronius, Holocolax
In this dialogue, the Royal Dwelling or Palace and its parts,
persons, and functions are described, as to which see Vincentius
Lupanas, in his book de Magistratibus Francorum. For our
Vives here chiefly describes the palace of a French king. The
persons represented in the dialogue are fitly named from the
Greek. For Agrius is with them a country rustic, unskilled in
court-life. Sophronius is a prudent, modest, and cautious man.
Holocolax is altogether a flatterer, and one who (as Terence says)
has commanded himself to agree to everything, of which sort of
men there is always so large an assembly in courts. There are
two parts of the dialogue, the Exordium and Narratio.
Agri. Why is it so many accompany the king in such
varied styles of dress?
Soph. Nay, rather look on their countenances than on
their finery. For their faces are more varied
and diverse than their decorations and clothes.
Agri. What reason is there for this difference also of
bearing?
Soph. They are clothed differently according to their
means; differently according to their rank or
family, often even according to their ambitions
or vanity. Many also use elegancy of
dress as an angle and net for catching the
favour of the king or of his chief officers, and,
not rarely, for winning the maids of his court.
But the expression of outward countenance
follows the stirrings of the mind, and such
outward expression is nearly always such as
is prompted by the inner disposition of the
mind.
Agri. But why do so many men meet here together?
Holo. Is it not fitting that very many people should
come where the capital and government of the
whole province are seated?
Soph. Quite so. But most people regard not so much
the commonwealth as their private good.
They follow the government, not because it has
the country in its hand, but because it has
fortunes to bestow.
Holo. Why not? Since all things are sold for money.
Soph. So they think who don’t possess any soul and
mind, but whose health and gifts of body are
only common.
Agri. What need is there in this tumult of the court to
hold so great a philosophical speculation? I
indeed should prefer to understand from you
what sort of people these are in such great
numbers, in such varied appearances and
fashions.
Holo. I will tell you of them all, in their rank. For
Sophronius, as far as I know, is not so well
versed in royal matters. But I have been in
royal company of all kinds; I have penetrated,
inspected, and seen thoroughly their
courts, and I have always been acceptable and
pleasing to them all.
Soph. Thence I suppose it is that you have gained that
name of yours, Holocolax.
Holo. You suppose rightly. But do you, Agrius, listen
to me. He yonder, on whom every ear, eye,
mind, is intent, is the king, the head of the
kingdom.
Soph. Truly the head, and so the health when he is
wise and honest, but the ruin when he is bad or
rash (demens).
Holo. The little boy who follows him is his son, his heir,
whom in the Greek court they called despot,
that is, lord (dominus). In Spain they call
him prince, in France the dauphin. There
with a neck-chain, like that of Torquatus, in
clothes all of silk, or all of gold, are the leaders
of the kingdom, with the decorations of names
of military dignitaries, princes, dukes, lords
of the marches, who are called marchiones,
counts, men who are named barbarously,
barons, knights. This one is the master of the
horse, whom they call by the vulgar term of
comes stabilis, a name taken from the Greek court,
when the great Comestabulus (Constable) was,
as it were, the prefect of the sea, the admiral.
Further, he was supreme over the palace, and
also was at the head of the guards. In the time
of Romulus they named such an one praefectus
celerum, and the guards themselves celeres.
Agri. Who are those in robes reaching to the ankles, and
with faces of great severity?
Holo. They are the counsellors of the king.
Soph. Those whom the prince calls to his council. It
behoves them to be the most prudent of men,
of great experience, of the greatest weight and
moderation in their discernment.
Agri. Why so?
Soph. Because they are the eyes and ears of the prince,
and so of the whole kingdom, and so much the
more if the king should be blind or deaf, enslaved
by his senses, or by ignorance, or by
enjoyment of pleasure.
Agri. Are that one-eyed man and that other deaf man
eyes and ears of the king?
Soph. Worse still is blindness and deafness of the heart!
Holo. The secretaries follow the counsellors, nor are they
few in number or of one rank; then those who
deal in money matters for the king, or those
who get it in, farmers of the taxes, treasury-tribunes,
prefects, procurators, and advocates
of the treasury.
Agri. Who are those luxuriously decked and festive
young men who always follow the king and
stand at his side, some laughing at him and
others with open mouth, full of wonder at
what he says?
Holo. These are a band of intimate friends, the delight
and joy of the king.
Agri. Why are the two who are entering there followed
by so many men full of grimaces?
Holo. Because the king has in them especial confidence.
The one is the prefect of the sacred writings,
or chief secretary; the other the keeper of
the secret archives, amongst which are the
official statistics (regni breviarium). He has
to remind the king of everything. Therefore
daily so many come to him, so that they may
rub up and renew his memory, since that is the
keeping of the memory of the prince. Those
who draw in their countenances are litigants,
who are prosecuting their suits. Their business
never finds an end, through the long series
of procrastinations which are kept up. Those
two who keep walking up and down the hall
are prefects, the one of the sleeping-chamber,
the other of the royal stables. These have
under them very many other chamber and
stable attendants. But let us enter the royal
dining-hall.
Agri. Ah, how great a crowd solicitous and stately in
their pomp!
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Soph. You would observe these with still greater amazement
if you knew how small a matter they are
attending to. It is, forsooth, this: it is how a
sick man may suck up a single egg and drink
a little wine.
Holo. That man is the master of the feast for this week.
There he is with an Indian who has a plait of
rushes on him. That young man is the cup-bearer.
The carver has not yet entered.
Agri. Who are about to have their breakfast (pransuri)
with the king?
Holo. You mean who is so lucky as to take part in this
feast of the gods?
Soph. Formerly guests were invited to the royal table,
sometimes experienced military commanders,
sometimes men of high lineage, or sometimes
those distinguished either by experience in
affairs, or by their learning, by whose discourse
the king would become better and wiser. But
the pride of Goths and other barbarians has
invaded this our custom.
Holo. The chief followers have their grown-up armour-bearers
and their boy-followers, boys on foot
and spurred boys. Amongst these are quite
magnificent, rich people, who most of them
take their meals in correct fashion, or if this
seems to them wearisome, they send basketfuls
to their friends. This latter custom is more
useful to their poorer friends. But the correct
fashion of feasting has more distinction in it.
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Agri. I seem to see quite another sort of people in that
eating-chamber.
Holo. Those are the ladies’ quarters, where the queen
lives with her matrons and girls. Look how
they enter and go out from the hall (ex parthenone)
like as bees from a hive—young lovers
and slaves of Cupid!
Soph. Often old people have a second childhood.
Holo. There is no greater pleasure than to hear the
keenly thought-out sayings, or poems, songs,
early morning (antelucanus) melodies, and
chat of these girls, to see their briskness, their
walking in and out, varieties of colour in their
dress, their clothing and shapes of garments.
They have boys as amanuenses, through whom
they send and return messages. With what
zeal and what industry, what breeding, they
announce and bring back messages, hither
and thither. By the faith of the gods! with
uncovered heads, with bent hams and
bowed knees. Every day there is something
new to be heard, seen, and pondered over;
something which has been acutely or subtly
thought out or said, or done with spirit, or
dexterously, or without restraint.
Soph. Nay, rather in a négligé way.
Holo. What greater happiness? Who could tear himself
away from such delight?
Soph. Colax, Colax, without being in love you are
raving, and without wine, you are drunk.
What foolishness could be greater than what
has been described by you?
Holo. I don’t know how it happens that you see heaps
of people depart from the schools quite young,
but let them once enter the court, they become
old in it.
Soph. So also those who drank from the cup of Circe
would be unwilling to yield and return to their
human nature and condition, having once lost
their reason, and having degenerated into the
nature of beasts!
Agri. But what do all these do when they go home, and
with what actions do they occupy themselves
to pass the time, at least?
Soph. The most of them do nothing more serious than
what you now observe them doing, and then
their leisure is for them the parent and nurse
of many vices. Some play at dice, cards, the
gaming-board, at disputations; others pass
the afternoon hours in secret slander and artful
calumny, that is to what they degenerate at
home. Many also are wonderfully taken up
with buffoons and jugglers, towards whom
those who are at other times niggardly and
sordid, to them they are most lavish. But
the chief corruption of the court is the flattery
of each to all the others, and, what is still worse,
towards himself. This brings it about that
no one ever hears salutary truths either from
himself nor from his companions unless when
at strife. And though he receives then all too
little of truth, he takes it as insult.
Holo. This employment is now by far the most profitable.
You may hunger and thirst after the love of
speaking and truth. I have become rich by
my smiling, blandishments, and by approving
and praising everything.
Agri. Could not the kings alter these unsatisfactory
matters?
Soph. Very easily, if they only wished to do so! But
these fashions are pleasing; they are similar
to their own. Others are precluded by their
preoccupations, on account of which they
never have leisure for doing anything which
is right or thinking anything which is sane.
There are also not lacking those who, with
indulgent minds and careless themselves, don’t
think the morality of their own homes, and
that of their dependants, any concern of theirs.
And those things trouble them less than the
private home of each of us troubles any of us.
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Morobulus, Philippus, Sophobulus
This dialogue is entirely “political,” for Vives lays down the
precepts to the boy prince, and teaches the art of good government.
The names are aptly bestowed. Morobulus is a foolish
counsellor, à μωρὸς, foolish, βουλὴ, counsel; Sophobulus, a prudent
counsellor. There are two parts of the dialogue.
INSTITUTIO
| Morobuli de |
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Inutilitate studiorum Praeceptoribus |
Sophobuli de arte gubernandi |
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Quod principi sit necessaria: idque ostendit tribus similitudinibus |
| Quomodo comparanda sit |
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Doctrina: ubi ostendit, quinam Consulendi Ocii fuga |
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Sint
Non sint |
Morob. What has your highness in hand, Philip?
Phil. I read and learn with zeal, as you can see for yourself.
Morob. I see only too well, and am pained that you
weary yourself, and that you are making that
little body of yours quite lean!
Phil. What then should I do?
Morob. That which other nobles, princes, and rich men
do—ride about, chat with the daughters of
your august mother, dance, learn the art of
bearing arms, play cards or ball, leap and run.
Such, you see, are the studies in which young
nobles most delight. If now people, who
scarcely are worthy to be received in your
family, enjoy these pleasant occupations, why
is it suitable for you to do as you are doing,
when you are the son and heir of so great a
prince?
Phil. What! is the study of letters no good?
Morob. It is indeed of good, but rather for those who
are initiated in holy affairs, i.e., priests, or for
those who, by useful knowledge of their art,
are about to earn their living, such as the shoemaker’s
art, the weaving art, and the other arts
necessary for money-making. Rise, I beg of
you, put away your books from your hands.
Let us go out for a walk, so that for some short
time you may get fresh air!
Phil. I may not do so just now, because of Stunica and
Siliceus.
Morob. Who are these Stunica and Siliceus? Are they
not your subjects, over whom you have the
command, not they over you?
Phil. Stunica is my educator, while Siliceus is my
literary tutor. Subjects of mine indeed they
are, or to speak more exactly, of my father;
but my father, to whom I am subject, placed
them over me, and subjected me to them.
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Morob. What then! Did your father give your highness
into servitude to these men?
Phil. I don’t know.
Morob. Oh! most unworthy deed!
II. The Teaching of Sophobulus
Soph. By no means, my son! Certainly he made them
thy servants; he wished them to stick close to
thee, as eyes, ears, soul, and mind, to be always
engaged on thy behalf, each of them to put
aside his own affairs, and to make thy affairs
his sole business, not so as to vex thee by imperiousness;
but that those good and wise men
should transform thy uncultivated manners
into the virtue, glory, and excellence of a man;
not so as to make thee a slave, but truly a free
man and truly a prince. If thou dost not obey
them, then wilt thou be a slave of the lowest
order, worse than those here amongst us who
are employed, bought and sold from Ethiopia
or Africa.
Morob. Whose slave, then, would he be, if he did not
mould his morals after his educators?
Soph. Not of men certainly, but of vices, which are
more importunate masters, and more intolerable
than a dishonest and wicked man!
Phil. I don’t quite understand what you say.
Soph. But did you understand Morobulus?
Phil. Most clearly, everything.
Soph. Oh, how happy men would be, if they had the
sense and intelligence for good and satisfactory
things which they have for frivolous and bad
things! Now indeed, on the contrary, at your
time of life, it happens that you understand
with ease what is trifling, what is
inept, nay, even what is insane, such things as
those to which Morobulus has exhorted you,
and then you regard what I would say on
virtue, dignity, and every kind of praiseworthy
thing, as if I were speaking Arabic or Gothic.
Phil. What, then, are you of opinion I ought to do?
Soph. You should at least suspend your judgment.
Neither acquiesce in the opinions of Morobulus,
nor in mine, until you are able to judge
as to both.
Phil. Who will give me this power of judgment?
Soph. Ah! that will come with age, teaching, and
experience.
Morob. Alas! that would require long weariness of
waiting!
Soph. Morobulus advises well. Throw away your
books. Let us go and play! Let us play a
game in which one is elected king. He will
prescribe to the others what should be done.
The rest obey, according to the laws of the
game. You shall be king.
Phil. How shall the game be? For if I don’t know the
game, how shall I be able to take the part of
king in it?
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Soph. What are you saying, sweetest little Philip, the
darling of Spain? You would not dare to
undertake to rule in a game, not knowing it,
in a game and frivolous matters, in which a
mistake brings no particular danger; and you
are willing seriously to undertake to rule so
many and so great kingdoms, ignorant of the
condition of the people and of the laws of
administration, although uninstructed in all
prudence, and only knowing the ridiculous
trivialities, which Morobulus here instils in
your mind? Ah! my boy, tell the Master of
the Horse to lead forth hither that Neapolitan
horse, the most ferocious kicker, and the one
given to throw his rider to the ground, and let
Philip ride him!
Phil. By no means that one, but another and safer one.
For I have not as yet learned the art of managing
a refractory horse, and I have not the
strength for it!
Soph. Well, Philip, let me ask you whether you think
that a lion is equally fierce as a horse; or that
a horse will kick and be refractory, and less
obedient to the bridle than people, and the
host of men in a country who come together
and congregate from every kind of vice,
passion, crime, and evil deed; from agitations
which have been fanned so as to be incensed,
inflamed, burning into flame? You would not
dare to mount a horse, while you demand that
you should rule over a people, more difficult
still to govern and manage than any horse!
But let us dismiss this illustration. Do you
see that boat on the river? The navigation
is most pleasant and delightful between the
meadows and the willow-plantings. Come,
let us go down to it. You shall sit at the
rudder and guide the boat.
Phil. Yes, indeed! and overturn you and plunge you
into the water, as Pimentellulus lately did!
Soph. What! you are not willing to guide a boat, on a
stream so even and so calm, because untrained,
and yet you will commit yourself to that sea,
to those waves and tides, to that tempest of
the people, without knowledge and without
experience? Evidently it has befallen you
as it did Phaethon, who was ignorant of the
art of charioteering, and yet, with youthful
ardour, he requested that he might take the
management of his father’s chariot! I think
that story is known to you. Isocrates used to
say excellently, that the two greatest offices in
the life of men were those of the prince and the
priest. No one, he said, should seek after
them, unless he were worthy. No one should
believe himself able rightly to rule, unless he
were the most prudent man in the kingdom.
Phil. I see that nothing is so necessary for my person
and station as the knowledge of the art and
skill of ruling a kingdom.
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Soph. Evidently you grasp the matter.
Phil. How can I pursue my duty?
Soph. Hast thou received the knowledge of governing
at thy birth?
Phil. Indeed, no!
Soph. By what means, then, canst thou get to know
except by learning?
Phil. There is no other way.
Soph. With what countenance, then, can Morobulus
advise you, that you should throw away your
studies, by which you may obtain experience
in your art, as well as knowledge of other subjects
of the greatest and most attractive kind?
Phil. From whom, then, can knowledge of these subjects
be obtained?
Soph. From those who have reflected on them, and
observed them as they have been manifested in
the greatest minds, of whom some are dead,
others living.
Phil. But how can we learn from the dead? Can the
dead speak?
Soph. Have you never in conversation heard the names
of Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, Seneca, Livy,
Plutarch?
Phil. These are great names! I have heard them
spoken of often, and with great admiration and
praise.
Soph. These very names and many others like them,
already departed from this life, will talk with
you as often and as much as you like.
Phil. How?
Soph. In books, which they have left behind for the
benefit of posterity.
Phil. How is it that these are not already in my hand?
Soph. They shall be given to you soon, after you have
learned that language, in which you will be
able to understand what they say. Only wait
a little, and go through with the short burden
which must be endured in receiving the elementary
basis of instruction; after that follow
incredible delights. It is no wonder that without
such a preparation the idea of literary
studies is abhorrent. But those who have
enjoyed them would sooner be plucked from
life itself than be torn away from books and
intellectual interests.
Phil. But pray tell me, who are those living people
from whom this wisdom and soundness of
mind can be learned?
Soph. If you were about to undertake any journey,
from whom would you earnestly inquire the
road? Would it be from those who had never
seen the road, or from those who had at some
time accomplished the journey?
Phil. From those, forsooth, who had travelled on that
journey!
Soph. Is not this life even as a journey, and is it not a
perpetual starting out?
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Phil. So it seems.
Soph. Who, therefore, have performed this journey the
most thoroughly? Old men or youths?
Phil. Old men.
Soph. Old men, then, should be consulted.
Phil. All indifferently?
Soph. That is an acute question; not all promiscuously.
But in the same manner as it is with
the journey, so it is with life. Do those know
the way of life, who have gone along it without
reflecting on it, busying themselves with something
else, their minds wandering no less than
their body; or those who have noted things
diligently and attended to them, one by one,
and committed what they have observed to
their memory?
Phil. To be sure it is the latter.
Soph. Therefore, in taking counsel concerning the
method of leading our life, it is not young men
to whom we should listen, for they have not
been over the journey, much less youths, and,
what is most foolish and inappropriate, boys.
Nor is counsel to be sought from foolish,
lascivious, demented old men, worse than
boys, whom the divine oracles execrate, because
they are boys of a hundred years of age.
Ears should be open to old men of great judgment,
experienced in things, and prudent in
mind.
Phil. By what sign shall I know them?
Soph. To be sure, at thy age, my son, thou canst not as
yet distinguish them by any sign; but when a
greater and stronger judgment has developed
in thee, thou wilt easily recognise them by their
words and deeds, as affording the clearest of
signs. In the meantime, whilst thou hast not
strength in this power of judgment, trust thyself
entirely, and commit the direction, to thy
father, and to those whom thy father has
appointed as instructors and teachers and
governors of thy early years—those who, as
it were, lead thee by the hand, along that road
on which thou hast not yet journeyed. For
there is a greater care over thee exercised by
thy father (to whom thou art dearer than he is
to thee) than thou couldst have for thyself,
and, in this matter, not only has he his own
experience to guide him, but he makes use of
the counsel of wise men.
Morob. For too long I have been silent.
Soph. Quite so, though contrary to your custom. For
some time I have felt keen astonishment at
the fact.
Morob. Philip, do not your father and the King of France
and other great kings and princes rule their
kingdoms and territories, and hold them in
their duty, without the study of letters, and
without that burdensome labour, which here is
imposed mercilessly on your tender shoulders?
Soph. Nothing is so easy that it cannot become difficult,
if it is done unwillingly. Industrious labour,
devoted to learning, is not wearisome to him
who gives his attention to it gladly. But to
him who is unwilling, if indeed it is a game
that is in question, or if it were a case of taking
a walk in the most pleasant spots, it is troublesome
and intolerable. To thee, Morobulus,
most eager for trifling and always accustomed
to frivolity, either to do anything serious or
even to hear of it, is as unpleasant as death.
Certainly many others would regard their life
as bitter, if the manner of their living were
fixed according to the fashion of Morobulus.
How many there are, especially in courts, to
whom nothing is sweeter than a sluggish and
inert leisure! To move their hands to do work
is to put them on the torture-rack! How
many there are, on the other hand, amongst
the people, who would die rather than pass
through all their days with such vacuity, and
would get weary more quickly by doing nothing
than by giving their closest attention to some
business! But to answer you concerning the
Emperor and King of France, you shall hear
from me about old men in general, whom I take
to be those who have run over the track of life.
If all, whosoever have made the journey, with
unanimity say that they have fallen on some spot
full of difficulty and danger, from which place
they have only got away wounded and broken
down to the last degree; but if they had that
journey to go over again they would take care
for nothing more diligently than against that
danger. What do you think, would it not be
the part of a most foolish man, when he had to
take that way again, not to recall the danger
and not to know it was coming?
Phil. Not as yet do I grasp what you mean!
Soph. I will make it more clear by an example.
Imagine that, over the river yonder, there was
a narrow plank as bridge, and that every one
told you that as many as rode on horseback
and attempted thus to cross it, had fallen into
the water, and were in danger of their lives,
and, moreover, that with difficulty they had
been dragged out half-dead. Do you understand
this?
Phil. Most clearly.
Soph. Would not, in such a case, a man seem to you to
be demented who, taking that journey, did
not get off from his horse, and escape from the
danger in which the others had fallen?
Phil. To be sure he would.
Soph. And rightly! Seek now from old men, as to what
chiefly they have felt unfortunate in this life,
what it grieves them most and what they
bitterly regret to have neglected. All will
answer with one voice, so far as they have
learned anything, it is, not to have learned more.
So far as they have not learned, they will regret
that they did not take pains to acquire the
knowledge. Having entered on this complaint
against themselves, they will tell you over and
over again, that their parents or educators sent
them to schools and to teachers of literature,
yet that they, drawn on by vain delights,
either of play, or hunting, or love, or frivolity
of some kind, let drop from their hands the
opportunities of learning; and so they complain
of their fate and bewail their lot, and
accuse themselves, condemn themselves, and, at
times, also curse themselves. You see now the
state of slackness and ignorance on the road
of life is especially unsafe and dangerous, and
is the one chiefly to be avoided, since you
hear the miserable cries of those who have
fallen there. It is therefore to be avoided
with all care and diligence. It is incumbent
on youth, to reject and despise sluggishness,
ease, little delicacies, and frivolity, whilst the
whole mind should be intent on the study of
letters and the cultivation of goodness of soul.
You, then, ask your father on this matter,
although he is yet a young man, and do you,
Morobulus, ask yours, although an old man,
and you will understand from them that my
opinion is the true one.
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Valdaura, Tamayus, Lupianus, Castellus,
Manricus
This Dialogue has two parts: Exordium and the game.
The Exordium is an introduction as to time (à tempore).
Val. What rough weather! How cold and cruel the
heavens! how unfavourable the sun!
Tam. To what does this state of the heavens and the
sun point?
Val. That we should not go out of the house.
Tam. But what are we to do in the house?
Val. Study by the lighted hearth, meditate, think on
things—a course which might bring profit and
sound morals to the mind.
Cast. This is indeed the chief thing to be done, nor ought
anything to take precedence of it in a man’s
mind. But when a man’s mind is wearied by
intentness of application, how then shall he
divert himself, especially in such weather as
this?
Val. Some recreations of the mind suit some people;
others, others. I indeed receive delight and
recreation by card games.
Tam. And this kind of weather invites in that direction,
so that we hide ourselves in a closely shut
room, and guarded on every side from the
wind and cold, with a shining hearth, and a
table set with charts (i.e. maps).
Val. Alas! we have no charts.
Tam. I mean playing-cards.
Val. I should like that.
Tam. Then we want some money and stones (calculi)
for reckoning.
Val. We don’t need stones, if we have some very small
coins.
Tam. I have none, except gold and larger silver coins.
Val. Change some for small money. Here, boy, take
these coins of one, two, two-and-a-half, and
three, stivers and get us tiny coins from the
money-changer—single, two, three, farthing-pieces,
not bigger money.
Tam. How these coins shine!
Val. Certainly, they are as yet new and unused.
Tam. Let us go to the games-emporium, where we
shall find everything ready to hand.
Cast. It is not expedient, for we should have such a
number of umpires. We might just as well
play in the public street. It would be better
to betake ourselves into your room, and invite
a few of our friends, especially those likely to
put us in good spirits.
Tam. Your chamber is more convenient for this, for in
mine, we should be interrupted continually by
the mother’s maidservants, who are always
seeking some dirty clothes in the women’s
chests.
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Val. Let us go then into the dining-room.
Tam. So let it be. Let us go! Boy, fetch us here
Franciscus Lupianus and Roderick Manricus
and Zoilaster.
Val. Stay! By no means let us have Zoilaster, an
angry man, given to quarrelling, a noisy calumniator,
one who often raises fierce tragedies
out of the smallest matters.
Cast. You certainly advise wisely, for if a young man of
such views of recreation should mix himself in
our company, then there would not be sport
but grave strife. Bring, therefore, Rimosulus
instead of him.
Val. No, not him, unless you wish whatever we do here,
by way of sport, should be made known before
sunset throughout the city.
Cast. Is he so good a herald?
Val. Yes, in making things known where no good is
done by the knowledge. As to matters of
good report, he is more religiously silent than
the Eleusinian mysteries.
Tam. Then Lupianus and Manricus alone are to
come.
Cast. They are first-rate companions.
Tam. And warn them to bring little coins with them,
but whatsoever is of severity and earnestness
let them leave at home with the crabbed
Philoponus. Let them come, accompanied by
jests, wit, and agreeableness.
Lup. Hail! most festive companions!
Tam. What is the meaning of that contraction of your
brow? Smooth those wrinkles. Haven’t you
been advised to lay down all thoughts of
literature in the abode of the Muses?
Lup. Our thoughts on literature are so illiterate that the
Muses who are in their abode wouldn’t own
them.
Manr. All prosperity!
Val. Prosperity is doubtful, when you are called to the
line of battle and to warfare, in which, indeed,
kings will be present!
Tam. Be of good cheer! Money-purses, not necks, will
be attacked.
Lup. The money-purse often is in place of a neck, and
money in place of blood and spirit; as with
those Carians, whose contempt of life is the
pretext for kings to practise their madness on
them.
Manr. I don’t wish to be an actor in, but the spectator
of, this play.
Tam. How so?
Manr. Because I am so very unfortunate; I always go
away from playing, beaten and despoiled.
Tam. Do you know what dice-players say, in a proverb
of theirs? “You should seek your toga
where you lost it.”
Manr. True, but there is the danger that, while I seek
the lost toga, I shall lose both my tunic and
shirt.
Tam. This indeed often happens, but he who risks
nothing does not become rich.
Manr. This is the opinion of metal-diggers.
Tam. Also of the Janus in the middle of Antwerp.
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Val. It is quite right. We can only play four at a time.
We are five. Let us cast lots as to who shall
be the spectator of the others.
Manr. I will be the one, without any casting of lots.
Val. No such thing! Wrong should be done to none.
No one’s will, but chance, shall decide this.
He to whom the first king falls in dealing, he
shall sit as lazy spectator, and if any dispute
shall arise, he shall be judge.
Lup. Here are two whole packs of cards; one is
Spanish, the other French.
Val. The Spanish does not seem to be quite right.
Lup. How so?
Val. Since the tens are lacking.
Lup. They don’t usually have them, as the French do.
Cards, both Spanish and French, are divided
into four suits, or families. The Spanish have
gold coins, cups, sceptres, and swords. The
French, hearts, diamonds, clubs, (little) ploughshares,
otherwise called spades or arrow-points.
There are in each suit—king, queen, knight;
ones, twos, threes, fours, fives, sixes, sevens,
eights, nines. The French also have tens. In
the Spanish game, golden pieces and cups are
used, but less preferably swords and sceptres.
With the French, the higher numbers are
always considered better.
Cast. What game shall we play?
Val. The game of Spanish Triumph, in which the
dealer will retain for himself the last card
as indication (of trumps) if it is a one or a
picture.
Manr. Let us know now who shall be left out of the
game!
Tam. You advise well. Pray deal the cards. This is
yours, this is his, this for Lupianus. You are
umpire.
Val. I would rather have you as umpire than as a
fellow-player.
Lup. Nice words, I must say. Pray, why do you say
so?
Val. Because in playing you are so cunning, and such
a caviller. Then they say that you have a
knack of arranging the cards as suits yourself.
Lup. My play has no deceit in it. But my activity
seems to your lack of experience like imposture,
as often is the case with the ignorant.
However, how does Castellus please you, who,
as soon as he has won a little money, leaves
off playing?
Tam. This is rather shirking play than playing itself
(eludere est hoc, quam ludere).
Val. That is a light evil enough. For if he should be
beaten, he will fasten himself to the game like
a nail in a beam.
Tam. We will play by twos, two against two. How
shall we be partnered?
Val. I, indeed, knowing nothing of this game, will stick
to you, Castellus, whom I understand to be
most expert in the game.
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Tam. Add also, most crafty in it.
Cast. There is no need of choosing. Lots must divide
everything. Those who get the highest cards
play against those with the lowest.
Val. So be it. Deal the cards!
Manr. As I wished, Castellus and I are on the same side.
Valdaura and Tamayus are our opponents.
Val. Let us sit, as we are accustomed, crosswise.
Give me that reclining chair, so that I may lose
more peacefully.
Tam. Place the footstool. Let us sit down in our
places. Draw for the lead.
Val. It is my lead. You deal, Castellus.
Cast. How? from the left to the right, according to the
Belgian custom? or, on the contrary, according
to Spanish custom, from the right to the left?
Val. By the latter custom, since we are playing the
Spanish game and have thrown out the tens.
Cast. Yes. How many cards do I give to each?
Val. Nine. But what shall the stake be?
Manr. Three denarii each deal and a doubling of the
stakes.
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Cast. Wait, my Manricus, you are getting on too fast!
That would not be play, but madness, where
so much money would be risked. How could
you have pleasure in the anxiety lest you
should lose so much money? One denarius
would be sufficient, and the increase shall be
one-half up to five asses.
Val. You counsel rightly. For so we shall not play
without stakes, which would be insipid, nor
for what would grieve us, if we lost, for that
is bitter.
Cast. Have you all nine cards? Hearts are trumps, and
this queen is mine.
Val. What a happy omen that is! Certainly it is most
true that the hearts of women ordinarily rule.
Cast. Leave off your reflections. Answer to this: I
increase the stake!
Val. I have a losing hand and haven’t good sequences.
I pass.
Tam. And I also. You deal, Manricus.
Val. What are you doing? You haven’t shown the
trump.
Manr. I will first count my cards, so as not to have
more or less than nine.
Val. You have one too many.
Manr. I will place one aside.
Val. That is not the rule of the game. You ought to
lose your turn of dealing, and pass it on to the
next. Give me the cards!
Manr. I won’t, since I haven’t yet turned up the trump.
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Val. Yes, you will. By God (per Deum)!
Cast. Get away! What has come into your mind, my
Valdaura? You swear oaths on the slightest
provocation, which would scarcely be fitting
on the most important affairs.
Manr. What do you say, umpire?
Lup. I don’t know really what should be done in this
case.
Manr. See what a judge we have appointed over us—one
who has no judgment—a leader without eyes.
Val. What, then, is to be done?
Manr. What, indeed, unless we send to Paris for some
one to bring this matter of ours forward for a
decree of the Senate.
Cast. Mix the cards, and deal again.
Tam. Oh! what a good hand I lose! I shall not have
another like it to-day!
Cast. Shuffle well those cards and deal them more carefully,
one by one.
Val. Again, I increase the stakes.
Tam. Didn’t I predict that I shouldn’t have such a
chance in my hands again to-day? I am
always most unfortunate. Why do I so
much as even look at a game?
Cast. This, indeed, is not playing. It is afflicting
ourselves. Is it recreating ourselves and refreshing
our minds, to get worried like this?
Play ought to be play, not torment.
Manr. Be a little patient; don’t throw your cards
away. You are getting into a panic!
Val. Then answer if you accept (the amount of the
stake).
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Manr. I accept, and increase it again.
Val. What! do you expect to put me to flight with your
fierce words? I don’t pass.
Manr. Declare, once for all, and be quick about it.
Do you agree?
Val. Yes, and with the greatest pleasure. My mind
prompts me to contest in such play for a still
greater stake, but this will do amongst friends.
Tam. What! don’t you count me amongst the living,
so that you leave me out of consideration?
Cast. What, then, do you stake, you man of straw
(faenee).
Tam. I, for my part, wish to increase the stake.
Manr. What do you say, Castellus?
Cast. At last you consult me, after you have increased
the stake by your own arrangements. I
should not dare, on my hand, to stake up to
such an increase.
Val. Give a definite answer.
Cast. I haven’t the grounds for doing so. Everything
seems ambiguous and doubtful. Hence I
answer hesitatingly, timidly, diffidently. Isn’t
this expressed sufficiently clearly?
Manr. Immortal God, what an abundance of words!
The hail we lately had, did not fall so thickly!
But, I beg, let us risk a little.
Cast. Let us make the attempt when you please, but
don’t expect a great stake from me.
Manr. But you will bring what assistance you can?
Cast. There is no need for you to advise me on that
score.
Manr. We have been completely beaten!
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Tam. We have won four denarii. Shuffle!
Val. I go five asses.
Cast. I don’t know whether I shall pass, for I am sure
to be beaten.
Tam. Five more!
Cast. What do you reply to this call?
Manr. What am I to say? I let it pass.
Cast. You lost the last game. Let me lose this in
accordance with my own ideas. I know that
I am of less skill, but I must hold out as long as
I seem to have any strength.
Val. What, then, do you say? Do you refuse?
Cast. No, certainly. I agree.
Tam. Don’t you know this Castellus, Valdaura? He
plays a better game than you, but he is thus
accustomed to lure on rash challengers into
his net. Take care not to go on rashly, where
you will be entangled in a net.
Val. God’s faith! how could you guess that I had one
last card left of this suit (natio)?
Cast. I knew all the cards.
Val. That is quite conceivable.
Cast. And that, too, without looking at them!
Val. Perhaps even from the backs?
Cast. You are too suspicious.
Val. You make me so, if you will excuse me saying so.
Tam. Let us examine if the backs of the cards have
marks whereby they can be recognised.
Val. Let us, please, make an end of playing. This
game worries me by all going so wrongly.
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Cast. As you will. But perchance the fault is not in
the game, but in your lack of skill, for you
don’t know how to direct your steps to victory,
but you throw away your cards without any
reason, as chance happens, thinking that it
doesn’t matter what you have played before,
or might play later, what and in what place
any card should be played.
Tam. Of all things there is satiety, and even of
pleasures. I am now weary of sitting. Let us
get up for a little time.
Lup. Take this lute and sing something to us.
Tam. What will you have?
Lup. A song on games.
Tam. A song of Vergil’s?
Lup. Yes; or if you prefer one of Vives, the song he
lately sang as he wandered along the wall-promenade
of Bruges.
Val. With the voice of a goose.
Lup. But you sing it with a swan’s voice!
Tam. This a god would do better, for the swan only
sings as death urges him on.
Ludunt et pueri, ludunt juvenesque senesque
Ingenium, gravitas, cani, prudentia, ludus,
Denique mortalis sola virtute remota,
Quid nisi nugatrix, et vana est fabula, vita.
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Val. I can assure you the song is well expressed, though
it comes as it were from a dry old stick (ex
spongia arida).
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Lup. Does he compose a song with such great difficulty?
Val. Indeed he does. Whether it is because he writes
poetry so rarely, or because he does not do it
willingly, or because the inclination of his
genius drives him into other regions.
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Borgia, Scintilla, Cabanillius
Valencia is a town of Spain, the native town of Vives. To it
Ptolemaeus gives 14° longitude, 39° latitude. See the same in
the fourth map, Europe. There is another Valencia in France, as
to which see the fifth map of Europe. This dialogue contains, to
a large extent, the description of the native town of Ludovicus
Vives. There are two parts of the dialogue. In the former part
he describes two cities: Paris with its games, and Valencia; in
the latter part he prescribes the laws of play. Ammianus Marcellinus
calls Paris (Lutetia) Parisiorum castellum. The Emperor
Julianus in an oration with the title Αντιοχιὸς ἢ μισοπώγων80 calls
it των παρισίων την πολιχνὴν;81 where also he shows for what
reason he once was driven at Lutetia to vomit his food, viz.,
when impatient of the French custom, by which they were
accustomed to heat their rooms by means of stoves (fornaces).
Coal having been taken to the sleeping-chamber of Vives, he
was almost killed by the fumes. See Beatus Rhenanus, book 3,
rerum Germanicarum, at the end; Aegydius Corrozetus, de
antiquitat. Parisiens.; and Zuingerus, book 3, methodi Apodemicae.
Borg. Whence comest thou, most delightful Scintilla?
Scin. From Lutetia.
Borg. What Lutetia is that?
Scin. Do you ask which Lutetia, as if there were many!
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Borg. If there is only one, I don’t know what it is, or
where it is situated.
Scin. It is the Parisian Lutetia (Lutetia Parisiorum).
Borg. I have often heard the Parisians spoken of, but
never Lutetia. It is, then, that Lutetia which
we call Paris? This is the reason then why, for
so long, no one has seen thee at Valencia, and
especially hast thou been missed at the tennis
court (sphaeristerium) of the nobles.
Scin. I have seen at Lutetia other tennis courts, other
gymnasia, other games, far more useful and
more attractive than yours at Valencia.
Borg. What are those, pray?
Scin. There are thirty gymnasia, more or less, in that
university (academia), which provides for every
kind of erudition, knowledge, and wisdom;
learned teachers, and most studious youths,
who are thoroughly well-bred.
Borg. Forsooth, a crowd of people!
Scin. What do you call a crowd?
Borg. The dregs of the people, sons of shoemakers,
weavers, barbers, fullers, and every kind of
operative artificers.
Scin. I see that you people here measure the whole
world by your city, and think that all Europe
has the same customs which you have here. I
can tell you, that the youth there very largely
consists of princes, leaders of men, nobles, and
the wealthiest persons, not only from France,
but also from Germany, Italy, Great Britain,
Spain, Belgium, marvellously devoted to the
study of letters, obeying the precepts and instructions
of their teachers. Their conduct
is not formed through simple admonition
merely, but by sharp reproof and, when it is
necessary, even by punishment, by blows and
lashes. All which they receive and bear with
modest mind and the most collected countenance.
Caban. I have often heard stories told of the university,
when I was acting as ambassador (legatus) of
King Ferdinand. But please now leave this
topic, or defer it for another time. You see
that we have now entered the Miracle Playground
(in ludo Miraculi), which lies next to
the Carrossi Square. Come, now, let our conversation
turn to the pleasurable topic of the
playing-ball (pila).
Scin. I should like it as long as we don’t sit down, but
go on talking, as we walk about. Then it
would be very agreeable. Where shall we go?
Shall we take this way, which leads to St.
Stephen’s Church, or that way to the Royal
Gate, where we then can visit the palace of
Ferdinand, Duke of Calabria?
Caban. Don’t let us by any chance interrupt the studies
in wisdom of that best of princes.
Borg. It would be better if we were to get mules so that
we might ride and talk.
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Caban. Don’t let us, I beg, lose the use of the feet and
the legs; the weather is clear and bright, and
the air cool; it will be more satisfactory to go
on foot than on horseback.
Borg. Then let us go this way by St. John’s Hospital to
the Marine Quarter.
Caban. Let us observe, by the way, the beautiful objects
we pass by.
Borg. What, on foot! This will be a disgrace.
Scin. In my opinion, it is a greater disgrace if men hang
upon the judgments of inexperienced and stupid
girls.
Caban. Would you like to go straight along Fig Street
and St. Thecla Street?
Scin. No, but through the quarter of the Cock Tavern
(tabernae gallinaceae). For in that quarter I
should like to see the house in which my Vives
was born. It is situated, as I have heard, to
the left as we descend, quite at the end of the
quarter. I will take the opportunity to call
upon his sister.
Borg. Let us put aside calling on women, but if you
wish to speak with a woman, let us go rather
to Angela Zabata, with whom we could have
a chat on questions of learning.
Caban. If you wish to do so, would that we met the
Marchioness Zeneti!
Scin. If those reports, which I heard of her when I was
in France, were true, then we might have a
greater subject of discussion than could easily
be treated especially by those busied about
anything else.
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Borg. Let us go up to St. Martin’s or down through the
Vallesian Quarter to the Villa Rasa Street.
Caban. From that place to the tennis court (sphaeristerium)
of Barzius, or, if you prefer, to that of
the Masconi.
Borg. Have you also in France, public grounds for games
like ours?
Scin. As to other French cities, I cannot answer you. I
know that there is none in Paris, but there are
many private grounds, for example, in the
suburbs of St. James, St. Marcellus, and St.
Germanus.
Caban. And in the city itself the most famous, which is
called Braccha.
Borg. Is the game played in the same way as here?
Scin. Exactly so, except that the teacher there furnishes
playing shoes and caps.
Borg. What sort are they?
Scin. The shoes are made of felt.
Borg. But they would not be of any use here.
Caban. That is, on a stony road. In France indeed,
and in Belgium, they play on a pavement,
covered over with tiles, level and smooth.
Scin. The caps worn are lighter in summer, but in
winter, thick and deep, with a band under the
chin, so that as the player moves about, the
cap shall not fall off the head or fall down over
the eyes.
Borg. We don’t here use a band, except when there is a
pretty strong wind. But what kind of balls
do they use?
Scin. Not such light wind-balls as here, but smaller
balls than yours, and much harder, made of
white leather. The stuffing of the balls is
not, as it is in yours, wool torn from rags, but
chiefly dogs’ hair. For this reason the game
is rarely played with the palm of the hand.
Borg. In what way, then, do they strike the ball? with
the fist, as we do the leather ball?
Scin. No, but with a net.
Borg. Woven from thread?
Scin. From somewhat thicker strings, such as are found
for the most part on the six-stringed lyre.
They have a stretched rope, and, as to the rest,
the game is played as in the houses here. To
send the ball under the rope is a fault, or loss of
a point. There are two signs or, if you prefer,
limits. The counting goes fifteen, thirty,
forty-five or (advantage), equality of numbers
and victory, which is twofold, as when it is
said: “We have won a game” or “We have
won a set.” The ball, indeed, is either sent
back whilst in its flight or thrown back after
the first bound. For on the second bound, the
stroke is invalid, and a mark is made where
the ball was struck.
Borg. Are there no other games there except tennis?
Scin. In the city as many or more than here, but
amongst scholars, no other is permitted by the
masters. But sometimes, secretly, they play
at cards and dice, the little boys with the
knuckle-bones (tali), the worse sort of boys
with dice (taxilli). We have a teacher Anneus
who used to allow card-playing at festival
times (obscoeno die). For that and for games
in general, he composed six laws written on a
tablet which he hung in his bed-chamber.
Borg. If it is not burdensome, may I ask you to tell
them to us, in the same way as you have told
us of other matters.
Scin. But let us continue our walk, for I am possessed
by an inconceivably keen desire to behold my
country which I have not seen for so long a
period.
Borg. Let us mount mules, so that we may move along
pleasantly, as well as with more dignity.
Scin. I would not give a snap of the fingers for this
dignity!
Borg. And I, if I may confess the truth, would not move
my hand for it. Nor do I know why riding on
mules seems to be more becoming for us.
Caban. This is rightly said; we are three, and in
the narrow streets or concourse of men we
should get parted from one another, whence
our talk would necessarily be interrupted, or
many remarks made by some one of us would
not be thoroughly heard or understood by the
others.
Borg. So let it be; let us proceed on foot. Enter
through this narrow lane on to the Pegnarogii
Street.
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Scin. Nothing could be better. Thence by the keysmith’s
into the Sweetmeats Quarter (vicum
dulciarium), then into the fruit market.
Borg. Nay, rather the vegetable market.
Scin. The market is both. Those who prefer to eat
vegetables call it the vegetable market; those
who prefer fruit call it the fruit market. What
a spaciousness there is of the market, what a
multitude of sellers and of things exposed for
sale! What a smell of fruit, what variety,
cleanliness, and brightness! Gardens could
hardly be thought to contain fruit equal to
the supply of what is in this market. What
skill and diligence our inspector (aedilis) of
public property and his ministers show so that
no buyer shall be taken in by fraud. Is not
he who is riding about so much, Honoratus
Joannius?
Caban. I think not, for one of my boys, who met him
just now, left him retiring to his library. If he
knew that we were here together then he would
undoubtedly join us in our conversation and
would postpone his serious studies to our play.
Borg. Now at last describe the laws of play!
Scin. We will withdraw from this crowd by the Street
of the Holy Virgin the Redeemer, to the
Smoky street and to St. Augustine’s, where
there are fewer people.
Caban. Let us not go down so far away from the main
body of the city. Let us rather ascend
through the street of Money-Purses to the
Hill, then to the Soldiers’ Quarter and the
house of your family, Scintilla, whose walls
yet seem to me to mourn over that hero, Count
Olivanus!
Borg. Nay, they have now laid aside their grief, and
now rejoice in all seriousness that such a youth
has stepped into the place of so great an old
man.
Scin. Oh, how delightful it is to look into the Senate
House (curia) and the fourfold court of the
governor of the city (praefectus urbis), which by
now seems almost to have become the heritage
of your family, Cabanillius—one part of the
building for a civil, another for a criminal, court,
and this part for the three hundred solidi. What
buildings! what a glory of the city!
Borg. In no place could you more rightly enunciate
laws than in the forum and curia, so give them
forth here! For some other time there will be
a more fitting occasion of discoursing on the
praise and admiration which our city excites.
Scin. The first law treats of the time of recreation
(quando ludendum). Man is constituted for
serious affairs, not for frivolity and recreation.
But we are to resort to games for the refreshing
of our minds from serious pursuits. The time,
therefore, for recreation is when the mind or
body has become wearied. Nor should otherwise
relaxation be taken, than as we take our
sleep, food, drink, and the other means of
renewal and recuperation. Otherwise it is
deleterious, as is everything which takes place
unseasonably.
The second law deals with the persons with
whom we are to take our recreation (cum
quibus ludendum). In the same way as when
you are about to take a journey, or to go to a
banquet, you look about diligently to see who
are to be your future boon companions or
fellow travellers, so in considering your recreation,
you should reflect with whom you will
play, so that they may be men known to you.
For there is a great danger with the unknown,
and it is a true proverb of Plautus: “A fellow-man
is a wolf to a man who does not know what
manner of associate he has got.” Companions
should be agreeable, festive, with whom there
is no danger of quarrelling or fighting, of either
doing or saying anything disgraceful or unbecoming!
Let them not be blasphemers of
God, or users of oaths! Nor should they be
impure in speech, lest your morals should be
rubbed against by the contagion of what is
depraved or profligate. Lastly, they should
bring to the game no other purpose than your
own, viz., the idea of thorough rest from
labour, and the freedom from mental strain.
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The third law concerns the kind of recreation.
First it should be a well-known game, for there
can be no pleasure, if it is not known by player
nor colleagues, nor by the lookers-on. Further,
it must at the same time refresh the mind and
exercise the body, if indeed the season of the
year and state of health are suitable. But if
not, it must be a game in which mere chance
does not count for everything. There must
be some skill in it, which may balance chance.
The fourth law is as to stakes. You ought
not to play so that the game is zestless,
and quickly satiates you. So a stake may be
justifiable. But it should not be a big one,
which may disturb the mind in the very game
itself, and if one is beaten, may vex and torture
you. That is not a game; it is rather the rack.
The fifth law treats of the manner of play,
viz., that before you settle to play, you
recall to mind that you have come for the invigoration
of your mind, and for this object you
may put a very small coin or two to stake, so
as to purchase with them the recuperation
from your weariness. Think that it is a chance,
i.e., variable, uncertain, unstable, common to
all, and that no harm will be done to you
through it, if you lose. Thus, you may have
equanimity in your loss, so as not to contract
your countenance and experience sadness over
it—nor break forth into oaths and curses,
either against your fellow-player, or any of the
spectators. If you win, don’t be insolently
loquacious to your fellow-player! Be in all
the game, his companion, cheerful, jovial, and
mirthful, this side of scurrility and petulancy,
nor must there be any trace of deceit, of
sordidness or avarice. Don’t be obstinate in
contention and, least of all, make use of oaths—when
you remember that the whole thing,
even if you are in the right, is not so weighty
that you need call the name of God to witness.
Remember that the spectators are, as it were,
the judges of the game. If they make any
pronouncement, then give in, and don’t offer
any sign of disapprobation. In this manner
the game will be both a delight and the noble
education of an honest youth will be pleasing
to all.
The sixth law has reference to the length of
time of playing. Play until you feel the mind
renewed and restored for labour, and the hour
for serious business calls you. Who does
otherwise seems to do ill. “May you be
willing to accept these laws; may you decree
their keeping, Romans!”82
Borg., Caban. “Even as he proposed” (Sicuti rogavit).
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Durerius Pictor (the Painter, Dürer), Grynaeus, Velius
This dialogue has two parts. The former is the Exordium.
The second part contains an examination of Dürer’s painting.
Albert Dürer was a remarkable German painter, whose works are
still extant. Simon Grynaeus was renowned by his knowledge of
literature, mathematics, and the sacred writings. He taught at
Basle, and was married there. Caspar Ursinus Velius was a
poet and distinguished historian. He was tutor to the Emperor
Maximilian II., as Jovius writes in his Elogia Doctorum Virorum.
Dürer. Go away from here, for you will buy nothing, as
I know full well, and you only remain in the
way, and this keeps buyers from coming nearer.
Gryn. Nay, we wish to buy, only we wish you to leave
the price to our judgment, and that you should
state the limit of time for payment, or, on the
other hand, let us settle the time, and you the
amount of payment.
Dürer. A fine way of doing business! There is no need
for me to have nonsense of this sort!
Gryn. Whose portrait is this, and what price do you put
on it?
Dürer. It is the portrait of Scipio Africanus and I price
it at four hundred sesterces, or not much less.
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Gryn. I pray you, before you favour us with a single
word, let us examine the art of the picture.
Velius here is half a physicist, and very skilled
in knowledge of the human body.
Dürer. For some time I have perceived that I was in for
being worried by you. Now whilst there are
no buyers at hand, you may waste my time as
you will.
Gryn. Do you call the practical knowledge of your art
a waste of time? What would you call that
of another’s?
Vel. First of all you have covered the top of this head
with many and straight hairs when the top is
called vertex, as if a vortex, from the curling
round of the hair, as we see in rivers when the
water rolls round and round (convolvit).
Dürer. Stupidly spoken; you don’t reflect that it is
badly combed, following the custom of his
age.
Vel. His forehead is unevenly bent.
Dürer. As a soldier he had received a wound at the
Trebia when he was saving his father.
Gryn. Where did you read that?
Dürer. In the lost decads of Livy.
Vel. The temples are too much swollen.
Dürer. Hollow temples would be the sign of madness!
Vel. I should like to be able to see the back part of the
head.
Dürer. Then turn the panel round.
Gryn. Why does Cato say amongst his other oracles:
“The forehead is before the back part of the
head?”
Dürer. How stupid you are! Don’t you see in every
man the forehead in front of the back part of
the head?
Gryn. There are some people whose backs I would
rather see than their faces!
Dürer. And I gladly, e.g., such buyers as you, and
soldiers!
Vel. Cato was of opinion that the presence of the master
was more effective for the oversight of his
affairs than his absence. For the rest, why
has he such long forelocks?
Dürer. Do you speak of these hairs over the forehead?
Vel. Yes.
Dürer. For many months he had no barber at hand as
we have in Spain.
Vel. Why have you covered with hair, the hairless part
(glabella)83 against its etymology?
Dürer. Do you pluck out the hairs with pincers!
Vel. The hairs in the nose stand out from the nose.
But you, such is your ingenuity, will throw
the fault from yourself on to the barber.
Dürer. Ignorant that you are! Don’t you remember
that the customs of those times were harsh,
horrible, boorish?
Vel. You, too, are ignorant. Have you not read that
Scipio was one of the most cultivated and
polished of all the men of his age, and a lover
of what was elegant?
Dürer. This painting gives his likeness as he was, when
an exile, at Liternum.
Gryn. The eyebrows are large, and suitable for Latium;
the eyelids too hollow, and the cheeks too much
sunk.
Dürer. Naturally, from the camp-watches.
Gryn. You are not only a painter, but a rhetorician, well
versed in turning off any criticism of your work.
Dürer. As far as I can see, you are well versed in finding
faults.
Vel. The picture has the cheeks and lips too much
puffed up.
Dürer. He is blowing the battle-trumpet.
Gryn. And you were blowing on a goblet when you
painted this.
Vel. On the contrary, he was blowing into a bag made
of skin. For elsewhere you have made him
hairy, whilst you have scarcely painted any
eyelashes.
Dürer. They have fallen off by disease.
Gryn. What was the disease?
Dürer. Seek that from his physician!
Gryn. Don’t you understand now that you must take
off from your price one hundred sesterces for
such lack of skill?
Dürer. Nay, for your cavils and bothersome questions
I ought rather to add two hundred sesterces to
the price.
Vel. You have made the pupils of the eyes grayish and I
have heard that Scipio’s were blue.
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Dürer. And I have heard that his eyes were blue-gray
like those of Minerva Bellatrix.
Vel. You have made the corners of the eyes too fleshy
and the hollows too moist.
Dürer. He was weeping because accused by Cato.
Vel. The jaws are too long, and the beard very thick and
profuse. You would say the hairs are the
bristles of swine.
Dürer. You are beyond measure, chatterers and talkative
cavillers. Get away with you. I won’t
let you have the opportunity of further criticising
the picture.
Vel. Please, my Dürer, since you have no other clients,
let us go on criticising here.
Dürer. What is the good to me?
Vel. We will each of us write a distich for you, whereby
the picture will be more easily sold.
Dürer. My art has no need of your commendation. For
skilled buyers who understand pictures, don’t
buy verses, but works of art.
Vel. But your Scipio has his nostrils too much dilated.
Dürer. He was in a state of wrath at his accusers.
Vel. We see no dimple in his chin.
Dürer. It is hidden in his beard. You also don’t see
his chin nor the double-chin!
Gryn. You have saved yourself the trouble of drawing
those for the sake of painting a big beard.
Vel. The straight and muscular neck pleases me, as
also the throat.
Dürer. Thank the Lord that you approve of something!
Vel. But so that I should not leave something to be
desired in this, I must also say the figure has
not sufficient hollow in the throat. When a
physiognomist noted this in Socrates, he pronounced
it as a sign of slowness of mind. I
should wish those shoulders to be a little more
erect, and larger.
Dürer. He was not so much a fighting soldier as a
general. Have you not heard of his apophthegm
on the point? When certain soldiers
were saying of him, that he was not so valiant
a soldier as he was a wise general, he answered:
“My mother bore me to be a general, not a
soldier.” But, depart, if you are not going
to be buyers, for I see some tax-farmers
approaching.
Vel. Let us go for a walk, and let us talk on the way
to one another, concerning the human body
without considering Scipio, and this portrait.
A flat nose does not befit a noble countenance.
Gryn. What do you think of the noses of the Huns,
then?
Vel. Away with such deformities!
Gryn. People with turned-up noses are not less deformed.
The Persians honoured eagle-nosed
people on account of Cyrus, who, they say,
had such a shaped nose.
Vel. The fore-arm and bend of the arm (ancon et campe)
are to the arm what the ham of the knee and
the knee are to the leg; thence the upper arm
(lacertus) down to the hand, from the muscles
of which also the legs are called muscular
(lacertosa).
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Gryn. Is not this the ell (cubitus) as used by those who
are measuring?
Vel. Yes, and ancon is another name for it.
Gryn. Is not that the way the Roman king came by his
name, Ancus?
Vel. It was by his curved elbow.
Gryn. The hand follows, the chief of all instruments.
The hand is divided into fingers, thumb, forefinger,
the middle or disreputable finger, the
next to the smallest, and the smallest.
Vel. Why has the middle finger a bad name? What
crime has it perpetrated?
Gryn. Our teacher said that he knew indeed the cause,
yet he was not willing to explain it, because it
would be unseemly. Don’t seek, therefore, to
know, for it does not become a well-brought-up
youth to inquire into disgraceful matters.
Vel. The Greeks named the finger next to the smallest,
δακτυλικόν, i.e. to say, the ring-finger.
Gryn. Clearly so, but on the left, not the right hand,
because on it, formerly, they were accustomed
to wear rings.
Vel. For what reason?
Gryn. They say that a vein stretches from the heart to
it. If the finger is encircled by a ring it is as
if the heart itself is crowned. The knots on the
fingers are called knuckles, and this word is used
for a knock of the fist. Between the knots are
joints and these are called by the general term,
joints (artus) and knots (articuli). It has been
handed down to memory, that Tiberius Caesar
had such hard knots that he could bore through
a fresh apple with his fingers.
Vel. Have you learned chiromantia?
Gryn. I have only heard the name. What is it?
Vel. You would have been able to interpret the lines on
the hands by it.
Gryn. I have said I know nothing of it, and so it is.
But if now I were to profess to know something
and looked attentively on your hand, gladly
you would listen willingly to me, and to a man
utterly unskilled in this mode of imposture
you would not altogether refuse your confidence!
Vel. How so?
Gryn. Because it is the nature of man to listen gladly
to those who profess that they will announce
secret things or what is about to happen.
Vel. Why are the Scaevolae so called?
Gryn. As if scaevae; from scaea, which is the left hand.
They say that there are more of the female sex
left-handed than in our sex.
Vel. What is vola?
Gryn. The hollow of the hand in which the lines are.
Vel. What does involare mean?
Gryn. That which you are doing. Gladly to steal, to
snatch and hide as if in the hollow of the hand,
and as the raving Lucretia did when she
snatched at the eyes of her serving-women.
[Then follows the Latin for the different
parts of the trunk of the body.]
Vel. Do you know the seat of the virtues in the body?
Gryn. No; where are they placed?
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Vel. Modesty in the forehead; in the right hand faithfulness;
and sympathy in the knee.
Gryn. The sole of the foot is not itself the base of the
foot.
Vel. So many think.
Gryn. Pliny observes that there is a people who make
for themselves at mid-day a shadow with the
sole of their foot, so great and broad it is!
How is it possible?
Vel. Clearly the sole in their case reaches from the
thigh-bone to the toes.
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Flexibulus, Grympherantes, Gorgopas
The last two dialogues are παραινετικοὶ or ethical, in the
former of which he instructs the boy prince, in the second any
one in general.
Flexibulus is a name borrowed from Varro, who uses the word
flexibula (pliant, flexible). Gorgopas is a name derived from
the idea of a stern countenance, such as that of Gorgon is said to
have been. Hence γοργωπὸς, having the eyes or face of Gorgon.
Eurip. in Hercules furens. The precepts in this dialogue of
Vives are sacred and most wise. They should be known
thoroughly by all sons of princes, for without doubt they would
act much better in human affairs if they kept them in view.
There are three parts in this dialogue, Exordium, Contentio, and
Epilogus. The Exordium contains the “occasion” and “final
cause.”
Flex. Wherefore did your father send you here to me?
Grym. He said that you were a man unusually well instructed,
wisely educated, and for that reason
well-pleasing to the state. He desired that
I, walking in your steps, might reach a like
popularity.
Flex. How do you think that you will secure this?
Grym. Through the noble education which all say that
you have yourself. My father added that this
education would become me better than any
other person.
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Flex. Tell me, my boy, how you came to be instructed
on this matter by your father?
Grym. It was not so much my father who instructed me
by his precepts as my uncle, an old man,
versed in many things, and long in the counsels
of kings.
Flex. What then did they teach you, my son and friend?
Gorg. Most wise man, look to it that by chance you
don’t slip through ignorance into some foolish
word or deed, or into something boorish, by
which you would lose that name of being
educated in the best manner.
Flex. What! is that name so lightly lost by you?
Gorg. Even through single words, with the single bending
of the knee, with a single inclination of the
head.
Flex. Ah! you have matters too delicate and feeble
with you—but with us we have much more
robust and vigorous standards!
Gorg. Our judgments are like our bodies, which can put
up with no tripping.
Flex. On the contrary, as is easily seen, it is your bodies,
rather than your minds, which can bear
labour.
Gorg. Perhaps you don’t know who it is whom you call
son and friend.
Flex. Are not these honourable names, and full of
benevolence?
Gorg. Full of benevolence, perhaps, which we don’t count
much of, but not of dignity and respect, which
we seek as being important. For this gentleman
is not accustomed to be called “friend.”
And don’t you understand that he has the
prefix of “sir” (domine) when he is addressed,
and that he has a retinue of varied-coloured
liveried men? Have you not further noticed
that there were so many wax-tapers, so
many badges of honour, so many mourners at
the parental ceremonies of his grandfather’s
funeral?
Flex. What then? Do you aim at being a lord over
everybody and to have no friends?
Grym. So my relations have taught me!
Flex. Then may your excellence, my lord (mi domine),
present some overwhelming proof of the right
teaching of your relatives!
Gorg. You seem to me to sneer at this boy. He is not a
common boy, so don’t treat him so!
Grym. In the first place, they have taught me that I
am of most honourable lineage, which yields
to none in this province, and, on that account,
I must take care diligently, and strive earnestly,
not to degenerate from the rank of my
ancestors; that they have won great honour
to themselves by yielding to no one in position,
dignity, authority, in name, and that I ought
to do the same. If any one should wish to
detract from that honour, immediately I must
fight him. It behoves me to be lavish with
money, and even profuse, but sparing and
frugal in paying honour to others. That it
behoves me, and those like me, by no means
to rise up in the presence of others, nor
to make way for them, nor to let them lead
me, hither and thither, nor to bare the head or
bow the knee to them; not as if any one could
deserve to be shown such honours from me, but
that so I shall conciliate to myself the favour
of men, shall catch the breeze of popularity,
and shall obtain that honour which we always
so greatly have borne in men’s mouths and
hearts! It is in this education that the difference
exists between those who are nobles, and
those who are not; since the noble has been
rightly accustomed to be educated to excel in
all these matters, whilst the common people
(ignobiles), trained to rustic manners, in none
of these things.
Flex. And what thinks your excellency, my lord, of
such a method of education?
Grym. What indeed! Why, it is by far the highest,
and worthy of my race.
Flex. What else then do you seek to learn from me?
Grym. In my opinion, nothing further would remain to
be learned, had not my father hurried me
hither to you. My father ordered me, or
rather rigidly enjoined me, to come to you; so
that if there was anything of a more hidden
kind, and more sacred as if of mysteries, by
which I might get more honour for myself,
then that you might, as a favour to him, not
feel it a burden to expound it, that thus our
family, so honourable and exalted, may ascend
still higher, since there are not a few new men
who, relying on their opulence, have come to
light, and seized upon dignities and honours so
that they even dare to vie with the old standing
and honours of our race.
Flex. Shameful thing!
Grym. Is it not?
Flex. This would be visible to a blind man!
Grym. Certainly. These new men march about with
a long company of followers, themselves in
gold-decked clothes or clothes of flowered
velvet, or clothes gay as those of Attalus, so that
we seem nothing before them, for we are clothed
in velvet to hide our poverty. If you will
undertake this labour, the reward for thy
labour will be that thou wilt be received by my
father in the number of our family, and wilt be
admitted to his favour and mine, and in process
of time, wilt receive some promotion from us.
Thou wilt always be amongst our clients and,
as it were, under our protection.
Flex. What could be a greater reward or more to be
desired? But tell me now, if thou uncoverest
the head or givest way or addressest any one
blandly, why art thou pleasing to them with
whom thou hast dealings?
Grym. Just because I meet them in this way.
Flex. All these externalities are only the signs which
denote that there is something in the heart,
on account of which they love you, for no one
loves them for themselves.
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Grym. Why should not everybody love those things
which are of honourable bearing, especially in
my grade of nobility?
Flex. Thou hast not yet advanced to that degree that
it should be permitted to thee to say so, and
thou thinkest that thou hast arrived at the
very highest.
Grym. I have no necessity to get knowledge and education.
My forefathers have left me enough to
live upon. And even if this were lacking, I
should not seek my living by those arts, or by
any means so low, but with the point of the
lance and with drawn sword.
Flex. This is high-spirited and fierce, as if indeed
because you are of noble rank you would not
be a man.
Grym. Fine words, those!
Flex. Which part of you is it that makes you a man!
Grym. Myself as a whole.
Flex. Is it by your body, in having which you don’t
differ from a beast?
Grym. By no means.
Flex. Not then yourself as a whole, but therefore by
your reason and your mind?
Grym. What then?
Flex. If, therefore, you permit your mind to be uncultivated
and boorish but cherish your body
and take thought for it alone, don’t you
transfer yourself from the human, into the
brute, condition? But let us return to the
topic on which we began to speak, for this
digression, if I gave way to it, would lead us a
long way from our purpose. If thou, therefore,
yieldest place, and uncoverest thy head,
for what do others take you?
Grym. For a noble, nobly instructed and brought
up.
Flex. You are too uncouth. Did you hear nothing at
home about the mind, about honesty, about
modesty, and moderation?
Grym. In the church, sometimes, I have heard of these
things from preachers.
Flex. When those who meet you see what is done by
you, they judge that you are a modest, honest
young man, approving of your actions towards
them, judging modestly and thinking humbly
of yourself. Thence the opinion of benevolence
and graciousness is formed of you.
Grym. Please be more explicit.
Flex. If people knew that you were so proud that
you looked down on them all with contempt,
that you bared your head and bent
your knee to them, not because that honour
was due to them, but because it redounded to
your honour to do it, do you think there would
be any one who would take pleasure in you, or
would love you for your honours sprung from
such false dissimulation?
Grym. For why?
Flex. Because you do honour to yourself, and take
pleasure in it—not to them. For who will
consider himself indebted to you for that
which you do for your sake? Or shall I
receive your honour not for itself, but as an
outlay which thou offerest for a good opinion
of thyself, not as due to my merits?
Grym. So it seems.
The Teaching of the Better View of Education—Right
Government of Oneself
Flex. Therefore, benevolence is won if people believe
that honour is paid to them, not that thou
shouldst be held more courtly and noble.
This will not happen, unless they have the
opinion of thee, that thou esteemest them
higher than thyself and holdest them worthy
of thy honour.
Grym. But this does not happen.
Flex. If it does not happen, then they must be deceived
on this point, or else thou wilt never obtain
what thou so keenly desirest.
Grym. By what way can you persuade me to think so?
Flex. Easily. Apply your mind carefully to what I say.
Grym. Go on, I beg. For I am sent on this very account
to you, and you shall always be amongst our
clientèle.
Flex. Ah, that apple is too raw for me!
Grym. What do you whisper?
Flex. I say the only way will be for you to be what you
wish to be thought to be.
Grym. How so?
Flex. If you wish to make anything warm, do you then
bring it to an imaginary fire?
Grym. No, but to a real fire.
Flex. If you wish to cleave anything in two, will
you use a picture of a sword depicted on
tapestry?
Grym. No, an iron sword.
Flex. Is there not the same strength with real things
as with artificial ones?
Grym. Apparently there is a difference.
Flex. Nor wilt thou effect the same with a simulated
moderation as with real modesty, for falsity
at some time or other shows itself for what it
is; truth is always the same. In fictitious
modesty you say something sometimes or do
something, publicly or privately, when you
forget yourself (for you are not able always
and everywhere to be on your guard), whereby
you are caught in your pretences. And as
formerly men loved you, since they did not
yet know you, afterwards, and for a long time
afterwards, they hate you when they have got
to know you.
Grym. How shall I note this modesty so as to be able
to appropriate it as thou teachest?
Flex. If thou wilt persuade thyself of what is actually the
case, that other people are better than thou art.
Gorg. Better indeed! Where are these people? I
suppose in Heaven, for on earth there are
very few equal; better, no one!
Grym. So I have heard often of my father and my uncle.
Flex. The circumstance that you do not understand the
significance of words leads you far from the
knowledge of truth. Tell us, what do you call
good, so that we may know if there is a better
than thyself?
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Grym. What do I know of the good? The good comes
from being the offspring of good parents.
Flex. This, therefore, is not yet known to thee, what it is
to be good, and yet you talk about what being
“better” means. How hast thou reached to the
comparative, when as yet thou hast not learned
the positive? But how dost thou know that
thy forefathers were good? By what mark
canst thou make that clear?
Grym. What! do you deny that they were good?
Flex. I did not know them! How can I then assert
anything of their goodness either way? By
what method of reasoning canst thou prove
that they were good?
Grym. Because every one says so of them; but why,
I beg, do you ask me all these vexatious
questions?
Flex. These questions are not vexatious, but necessary,
so that thou canst understand what thou art
inquiring from me.
Grym. Confine your answer, I beg, to a few words.
Flex. Many words are necessary to explain that of
which you have so crass an ignorance. But
since you are so fastidious, I will speak more
briefly than the matter, in itself so great,
demands to have said of it. Look at me
whilst I expound it. Who are the people who
are to be called learned? Are they not those
who have learning? or are they the rich? or
those who have money?
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Grym. Undoubtedly, those who have learning.
Flex. Who, then, are the good? Are they not those
who have what is good?
Grym. Clearly so.
Flex. Let us dismiss now the idea of riches, for they are
not in themselves really good. If they were,
then many people would be found to be better
than your father. Merchants and usurers would
then surpass honest and wise men in goodness.
Grym. Thus it seems, as you say.
Flex. Now, further, weigh what I am about to add in
points one by one. Is there not something
good in a keen intellect, a wise, mature judgment,
whole and sound; in a varied knowledge
about all kinds of great and useful affairs; in
wisdom; and in carrying into practice these
qualities; in determination; in dexterity in
pursuing one’s business. What do you say of
these things?
Grym. The very names of these qualities seem to me
beautiful and magnificent. So much more are
the things themselves great!
Flex. Well, then, what shall we say of wisdom, what of
religion, piety towards God, to one’s country,
parents, dependants, of justice, temperance,
liberality, magnanimity, equability of mind towards
calamity in human affairs, and brave
minds in adversity?
Grym. These things also are most excellent.
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Flex. These things alone are the good for men. All the
remaining “goods” which can be mentioned
are common to the good and to the bad, and
therefore are not true “goods.” Observe this,
please, well!
Grym. I will do so.
Flex. I wish thou wouldst, for thy disposition is not bad,
but is not well cultivated—as yet. Think now
well over this matter, whether thou possessest
those goods, and, if thou dost, how few thou
hast, and in what slender proportions! And
if thou examine this question acutely and
subtly, then wilt thou eventually see that
thou art not yet adorned and provided with
goods, great and many, and that no one
amongst the mass of people is less provided
with them than thyself. For among the multitude
are old people, who have seen and heard
much, and persons experienced in most things.
Others there are, devoting themselves to
studies, who sharpen their wits by learning, and
become cultured men; others engage in public
affairs; others occupy themselves with authors,
who will give them the knowledge they want.
Others are industrious fathers of families.
Others follow various arts and excel in them.
Even peasants themselves—how many of the
secrets of nature they possess! Sailors, too,
know of the course of day and night, the nature
of winds, the position of lands and seas. Some
of the people are holy and religious men, who
serve the Deity with devotion and worship
Him. Others enjoy success with moderation
and bear adversity with bravery. What dost
thou know of these? What energy like theirs
dost thou practise? In what dost thou excel?
In nothing at all except that “No one is better
than me: I am of a good stock.” How canst
thou be better, when as yet thou art not good?
Neither thy father nor thy relations or ancestors
have been good, unless they had these things
which I have recounted. If they had them,
you can tell. But I doubt it much. You certainly
will not be good, unless you become like
those I have described.
Grym. You have quite given me a shock, and made me
ashamed. I cannot find anything to even
mutter in reply!
Gorg. I have understood none of these things. You
have cast darkness before my eyes.
Flex. Naturally. For you came to these considerations
too uncouth, too long infected and enslaved in
contrary opinions. But you are a young man.
How do you think you are going to be classed?
as a master (dominus) or as a slave?
Grym. As a slave. For if it is as you have expounded,
and I know nothing which seems truer than
what you say, there are very many much
greater and more distinguished than I am, who
are slaves.
Flex. Don’t be lightly disgusted at what I have said.
Betake yourself home. Alone, think over
what I have said. Examine my statements,
ponder over them. The more you turn them
over in mind, the more you will recognise they
are true and certain.
Grym. I beseech you proceed, if you yet have further to
add, for I feel that at this moment I am a
changed man. For the future I shall seem to
be another person from my former self.
Flex. Would that it may happen to thee as it did to the
philosopher Polaemon!
Grym. What happened to him?84
Flex. Owing to a single oration of Xenocrates, from
being one of the worst and most incorrigible,
he turned out most studious of wisdom and the
seeker of every virtue, and was the successor of
Xenocrates in the Academy. But thou, my
son, now openly hast recognised to how great
a degree is lacking in thee the goodness, which
others have in an overflowing measure. Now
truly, and of thine own good will, thou yieldest
place to others and honourest the good in them
where thou seest them well furnished, and where
thou seest thyself to be deficient. And if thou
thus humblest thyself, and seemest to be of
slight attainments, thou wilt meet no one for
whom thou feelest abject contempt, and whom
thy conscience in thy heart does not place
before thyself. For thou wilt not be led away
to believe any one to be worse than thyself,
unless his badness and malice manifest themselves
openly, whilst thine own evil carefully
skulks within and is ashamed.
Grym. And what follows?
Flex. If thou doest these things, then wilt thou get the
real, solid, noble education itself, and true
urbanity; and if, as we are supposing now, thou
followest after a courtly life, thou wilt be pleasing
to all and dear to all. But even this thou
wilt not set at high value, but what will
then be the sole care to thee will be, to be
acceptable to the Eternal God.
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Budaeus, Grympherantes
There are three parts to this dialogue: Exordium, Narratio,
and Epilogus.
Bud. What is this so great and so sudden a change
in you? It might be included in Ovid’s
Metamorphoses.
Grym. Is it a change for the better or the worse?
Bud. For the better, in my opinion, at least, if one may
argue and estimate as to the goodness of a
mind from outward countenance, bearing, words,
and actions.
Grym. Can you then, my most delightful friend, congratulate
me?
Bud. I do indeed congratulate you and exhort you to
go on, and I pray God and all the saints, that
you may have just increase day by day of such
fruitfulness. But please don’t grudge so dear
a friend as I am, to impart the art so distinguished
and glorious, which could in so short a
time infuse so much virtue in a man’s heart.
Grym. The art and the fountain of this stream is that
very man who is so fruitful in goodness—Flexibulus,
if you know him.
Bud. Who does not know the man? He, as I have
heard from my father and my cousins, is a man
of great wisdom and experience of things, not
only known to this city, but also generally
beloved and honoured as only few are. Oh,
fortunate that you are! to have heard him more
closely and to have conversed with him familiarly,
and thereby to have gained so great a
fruit in the forming of manliness!
Grym. By so much the happier art thou, to have had
all this born with you in your home, as they
tell me, and to be able, not once and again as
I, but every day, as often as you pleased, to
listen to such a father, holding forth wisely on
the greatest and most useful topics.
Bud. Stop this, please, and let the conversation proceed,
with which we started, about thee and Flexibulus.
Grym. Let us then be silent with regard to your father
since this is your desire: let us return to Flexibulus;
nothing is sweeter to me than his discourse,
nothing more sagacious than his counsels,
nothing more weighty than his precepts,
or more holy. So by this foretaste of himself
which he has provided me, the thirst has been
stimulated and increased in a wonderful degree,
to draw further from that sweet fountain of
wisdom. Those who describe the earth tell us
that the streams are of wonderful formation
and nature; some inebriate, others take away
drunkenness; some send stupor, others sleep.
I have experienced that this fountain has the
property of making a man of a brute, a useful
person of a wastrel, and of a man an angel.
Bud. Might I not be able also to draw something from
this fountain, though it be with the tip of my
lips?
Grym. Why shouldst thou not? I will show you the
house where he dwells.
Bud. Another time! But do thou, whilst we are walking
along (or let us sit down, if you like), tell
me something of his precepts, those which thou
considerest to be his best and most potent.
Grym. I will gladly recall them to memory as far as I
am able if it will give you pleasure and be of use.
First of all he taught me that no one ought to
think highly of himself, but moderately or,
more truly, humbly; that this was the solid
and special foundation of the best education,
and truly of society. Hence to exercise all
diligence to cultivate the mind, and to adorn it
with the knowledge of things by the knowledge
and exercise of virtue. Otherwise, that a man
is not a man but as cattle. That one should
be interested in sacred matters and regard
them with the greatest attention and reverence.
Whatsoever on those matters you either hear,
or see, to regard it as great, wonder-moving,
and as things which surpass your power of comprehension.
That you should frequently commend
yourself to Christ in prayers, have your
hope and all your trust placed in Him. That
you should show yourself obedient to parents,
serve them, minister to them and, as each one
has power, be good and useful to them. That we
should honour and love the teacher even as the
parent, not of our body but (what is greater)
of our mind. That we should revere the
priests of the Lord, and show ourselves attentive
to their teaching, since they are to us in
place of the Apostles and even of the Lord
Himself. That we should stand up before
the old, uncovering our heads, and attentively
listen to them, from whom, through their long
experience of life, wisdom may be gathered.
That we should honour magistrates, and that
when they order anything we should listen to
what they say—since God has committed us
to their care. That we should look for, admire,
honour, and wish all good to, men of great ability,
of great learning, and to honest men, and
seek the friendship and intimacy of those from
whom so great fruits can be obtained, and that
we attend to it especially that we turn out like
them. And in the last place, that reverence is
due to those who are in places of dignity, and
therefore it should be given freely and gladly.
What do you say as to these precepts?
Bud. So far as I can form a judgment regarding them,
they are taken out from some rich storehouse
of wisdom. But tell me if many people do not
come to honour, who don’t deserve it, e.g.,
priests who don’t act in accordance with so
great a title, depraved magistrates, and foolish
and delirious old men? What is the opinion
of Flexibulus of these? Are they to be honoured
as greatly as the more capable men?
Grym. Flexibulus knew very well that there are many
such, but he did not allow that those of my age
could judge in matters of this kind. We had
not yet obtained such insight and wisdom, that
we could judge with regard to them. That
forming of opinion in these matters must be
left over to wise men, and to those who are
placed in authority over us.
Bud. Therein he was right, as it seems to me.
Grym. He used to add: that a youth ought not to be
slow in baring his head, in bending his knee, nor
in calling any one by his most honoured titles,
nor remiss in pleasant and modest discourse.
Nor does it become him to speak much amongst
his elders or superiors. For it would not otherwise
agree with the reverence due from him.
Silent himself, he should listen to them, and
drink in wisdom from them, knowledge of
varied kinds, and a correct and ready method
of speaking. The shortest way to knowledge
is diligence in listening. It is the part of a
prudent and thoughtful man to form right
judgments about things, and in every instance
of that about which he clearly knows. Therefore
a youth ought not to be tolerated, who
speaks hastily and judges hastily, nor one
who is inclined to asserting and deciding
hastily; that he ought to be reluctant to
argue and judge on even small and slight
questions of any kind, or, at any rate, rather
timid, i.e., conscious of his own ignorance.
But if this is true in slight matters, what shall
we say of literature, of the branches of knowledge?
of the laws of the country, of rites, of
the customs and institutions of our ancestors?
Concerning these, Flexibulus said, it was not
permissible in the youth to urge an opinion or
to dispute or to call in question; not to cavil,
nor to demand the grounds, but quietly and
modestly, to obey them. He supported his
opinion by the authority of Plato, a man of
great wisdom.
Bud. But if the laws are depraved in their morality,
unjust, tyrannical?
Grym. As to this Flexibulus expressed himself as he had
done with regard to old men. “I know full
well,” said he, “there are many customs in the
state which are not suitable, that whilst some
laws are sacred, some are unjust, but you are
unskilled, inexperienced in the affairs of life,
how should you form an opinion? Not as yet
have you reached that stage in erudition, in
the experience of things, that you should be
able to decide. Perchance, such is your ignorance
or licence of mind, you would judge those
laws to be unjust which are established most
righteously and with great wisdom. But who
could render manifest those laws which should
be abrogated without inquiring, discussing, and
deciding on points one by one? For this, you
are not yet capable.”
Bud. That is clearly so. Go on to other points.
Grym. No ornament is more becoming or pleasing in the
youth than modesty. Nothing is more offensive
and hateful than impudence. There is
great danger to our age from anger. By it
we are snatched to disgraceful actions, of
which afterwards we are most keenly ashamed.
And so we must struggle eagerly against it,
until it is entirely overcome, lest it overcome
us. The leisurely man, badly occupied, is a
stone, a beast; a well-occupied man is in truth a
man. Men, by doing nothing, learn to do evil.
Food and drink must be measured by the
natural desire of hunger and thirst, not by
gluttony, and not by brute-lust of stuffing the
body. What can be more loathsome to be said
than that a man wages war on his own body by
eating and drinking, which strip him of his
humanity, and hand him over to the beasts, or
make him even as it were a log of wood. The
expression of the face and the whole body show
in what manner the mind within is trained. But
from the whole exterior appearance, no mirror
of the mind is more certain than the eyes, and so
it is fitting that they should be sedate and quiet,
not elated nor dejected, neither mobile nor
stiff, and that the face itself should not be
drawn into severity or ferocity, but into a cheerful
and affable cast. Sordidness and obscenity
should be far absent from clothing, nurture,
intercourse, and speech. Our speech should be
neither arrogant nor marked by fear, nor (would
he have it by turns) abject and effeminate,
but simple and by no means captious; not
twisted to misleading interpretations, for if
that happens, nothing can be safely spoken,
and a noble nature in a man is broken, if his
speech is met by foolish and inane cavils.
When we are speaking, the hands should not
be tossed about, nor the head shaken, nor the
side bent, nor the forehead wrinkled, nor the
face distorted, nor the feet shuffling. Nothing
is viler than lying, nor is anything so abhorrent.
Intemperance makes us beasts; lying makes
us devils; the truth makes us demigods.
Truth is born of God; lying of the Devil, and
nothing is so harmful for the communion of
life. Much more ought the liar to be shut out
from the concourse of men than he who has
committed theft, or he who has beaten another,
or he who has debased the coinage. For what
intercourse in the affairs or business of life or
what trustful conversation can there be with
the man, who speaks otherwise than as he
thinks? With other kinds of vices, this may
be possible; but not with lying. Concerning
companions and friendship of youths he said
much and to the purpose, that this was not a
matter of slight moment to the honesty or
else the shame of our age, that the manners of
our friends and companions are communicated
to us as if by contagion, and we become almost
such as those are, with whom we have intimate
dealings; and therefore in that matter, there
should be exercised great diligence and care.
Nor did he permit us to seek friendships and
intimacies ourselves, but that they should be
chosen by parents or teachers or educators, and
he taught that we should accept them, and
honour them as they were recommended. For
parents, in choosing for us, are guided by reason,
whilst we may be seized by some bad desire or
lust of the mind. But if, by any chance, we
should find ourselves in useless or harmful
circumstances, then it behoves us as soon as
possible to seek advice from our superiors, and
to lay our cares before them. He said, from
time to time, indeed, very many other weighty
and admirable things, and these things also
he explained with considerable fullness and
exactness. But these points which I have
already stated were, on the whole, the most
important on the subject of the right
education of youth.
Breda, in Brabant; the Day of the
Visitation of the Holy Virgin, 1538.
[Large Roman numerals refer to the number of the Dialogue; small
Roman numerals refer to the pages of the Introduction; Arabic
numerals refer to the pages of the text.]
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A B C tablet, 18
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Academy, the, xxxix.
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Agonotheta, 106
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Alarum-clock, 116
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Anneus, a teacher, xliii., 204
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Apparel, court, 163
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Architriclinus (feast-master), 30
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Aristotle, 36, 47, 102, 147
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Ascham, Roger, xli.
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Atlantides, 98
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Bacchus, 151, 156
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Baldus, 106
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Banquet, 126, 132
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“Baptising” wine, 139
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Bardus, 107
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Bartolus, 106
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Batalarii, 102, 103, 106
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Beer, 92, 141
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Beggar, 43
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Bird, the teacher, 89
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Birds, different kinds of, 144
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Blacksmith, 82
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Boatmen, the scum of the sea, 59
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Boccaccio, 96
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Bömer, Dr., xxii.
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Book-gluer, 114
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Books, 179
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Boorish youth, 52
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Boulogne, 56
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Bread, different kinds of, 134
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Breakfast, 8, 27
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Bruges, 33, 34
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Budaeus (William Budé), vii.
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Buffoons, 170
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Busts of authors in library, 105
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Candles, 110
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Card-playing, XXI.
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Catharine of Aragon, xv., xvi., xxviii., 96
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Catholicon, The, 105
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Cato’s distichs quoted, 137
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Caryatides, 98
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Cervent, Clara, mother of Vives’ wife, xi.
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Chancellor, the, 167
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Characteristics of the Dialogues, xxxvii.
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Charts or maps, 186
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Cheese, 12, 145
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Cherries, buying of, 17;
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cherry-stones as stakes, 23
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Child, and rattle, 53
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Chrysostom, homilies of, 151
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Chytropus, 120
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Cicero, 113;
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Tusculanae Questiones, 42, 114
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Circe, cup of, 170
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Clock, 81; mechanical, 82
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Clothes, 84 sqq.
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Comb, 4;
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Constable, the, 165
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“Cooking” accounts, 50
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Cook-shop, 118
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Copies, writing, 74
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Copper-knobs on books, 113
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Counsellors of the king, 166
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Courtiers of the king, 167
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Cuckoo, the, 46
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Cups, 31, 51, 128
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Dauphin, the, 165
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Dead men can speak, 178
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Deafness, 42
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de Croy, Cardinal, Vives’ pupil, xii.
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Dedication of Vives’ School Dialogues, xxi.
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Delights of Sight, 88;
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of Hearing, 89;
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of Smell, 89;
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of Taste, 89;
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of Touch, 90
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Demosthenes, 113
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Dialectic, 102
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Dice-player, Curius the, 44
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Dignitaries of the court, 165
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Dilia, river, 83
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Dining-room, 96, 128
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Diogenes, 125, 136
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Discovery of the New World, 95
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Disease of thirst, 161
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Disputing, 20
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Dog, 7, 15, 41, 44
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Door-angels, 94
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Drama, and the Dialogues, xxxvii.
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Drawing lots, 189
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Dressing, 2 sqq.
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Drinking, 27, 28, 30, 45;
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Drivers, the scum of the earth, 59
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Drunkenness, xlvi., XVIII.;
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Dullard, John, xi.
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Dürer, Albrecht, 210
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Dury, John, and the Academy, xl.
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Earth, the, a fruitful mother, 53
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Eating, 27
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Education, XXIV.;
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Elegance of clothes as well as words, 47
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Elyot, Sir Thomas, xxxv., xli.
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Erasmus, vii., xi.
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Exercitatio, the Latin title for the Dialogues, vii.
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Fish, different kinds of, 143
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“Flat” wine, 139
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Flea, 83, 115
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Fleming, 33;
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Florus quoted, 122
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Foods, 37, VII., 92, XV.
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Freigius, J. T., editor of Dialogues, xxxiv., li.
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Frenchmen, 104
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Friendships arranged for children by parents, 242
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Fruits, 135. sqq.
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Games, xli.;
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Genders, number of, 35
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German, 120
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Geometry, 16
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Getting up, 1
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Godelina of Flanders, 96
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Goldfinch, 127
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Good, the real, 228 sqq.
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Governing, art of, 177
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Grace before meat, 33, 131;
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Grammar, 2, 35, 102
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Grammarians, asses, 119, 120
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Greek in the Dialogues, xxxv.
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Greetings, morning, 6
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Griselda, 96
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Guest, school-boy, 32
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Helen, 97
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Holiday from school, 56
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Holocolax, 165
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Home and school life, xxiii.
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Homer, 97
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Horace quoted, 53, 135
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Horses, and their trappings, IX.
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Host, a kindly, 153
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Hour-bells, 40
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Hours of teaching, 103
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House, the new, 93;
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Housteville, Aegidius de, xxxvi.
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Hugutio, 105
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Hunter, Mannius the, 44
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Ink, 72
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Inscriptions in houses, 97
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Intemperance, 241
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Isocrates quoted, 177
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Joannius, Honoratus, learned man of Valencia, 205
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Joviality, the gate of drunkenness, 161
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Jugglers, 170
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Keeper of Archives, the, 167
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King, the, 165;
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Kitchen, the, XV., 31;
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Ladies’ quarters in the court, 169
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Lapinius, Euphrosynus, xxxvi.
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Latin speaking, xxx., 34
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Laws of play, xliii., 206-9
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Lebrija (or Nebrissensis), Antonio de, x., 65
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Lecture-room, 65
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Letter-carrier, 51, 70
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Letters, 18, 21
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Library, school, 105
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Licentiates, 103
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Lie-telling, 13
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Life, a journey, 179
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Literature out of the class-room, 188
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Litigants of the king’s court, 167
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Livy, lost decads, 211
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Logic, 2
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Louvain, inhabitants of (Lovanians), 47
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Lover, the, 48
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Lucretia, picture of, 95
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Ludus literarius, a playing with letters, the Latin for a school, 19
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Lunch, 27
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Lutetia (Paris), 199
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Lying, 241
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Lyons, 116
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Magistrates, honour due to, 237
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Maid-servants, I., VI., VII., 52, 83
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Manners, at table, 37
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Maps, xlii.
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March, family name of Vives’ mother, vii.
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Market, the, at Valencia, 205
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Martial quoted, 45, 79, 81, 122, 123
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Master of the feast, the king’s, 168
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Master of the horse, 165
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Market, 36
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Meals, 24
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Meats, 137
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Mena, Juan de, quoted, xlv., 88
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Merchant, the, 49
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Miller, the, 134
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Milton, John, xxvii., xl.
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Mimus quoted, 156
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Modesty, real and fictitious, 227
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Monastery, Carthusian, 87;
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Moor, a white, 23
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Morning best for learning, 92
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Mortar, 122
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Mosquito-net, 115
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Motta, Peter, xxxv., xxxvi.
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Mountebank, 3
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Mulcaster, Richard, xxiv., xli.
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Muses, number of the, 136
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Music of birds, 89
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Mysteries, study of, by nobles, 222
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Names of Vives’ friends in the Dialogues, xxxiii.
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Napkin, 32, 130, 131
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Nature, in the Dialogues, xliv.
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Nazianzenus, 113
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Neapolitan horse, 176
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Nebrissensis, Antonius, see Lebrija
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Nightingale, the, 45, 88-9
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Night-studies, 110, 111, 112
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Noah, 157
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Nobility, ignorance of writing, 67;
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contempt of knowledge, 69
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Nobles and education, XXIV.
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Nut-shells, used by boys for ants’ houses, 22
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Obedience to the laws, 239
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Occupation of courtiers, 170
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Old men, 180, 228
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One-eyed carpenter, 52
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Opinions of Vives held by Budé, Erasmus, xii.;
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and Sir Thomas More, xiii.
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Oppugnator, 107
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Orbilius, the schoolmaster, 91
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Ovid quoted, 78, 116, 234
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Painting, XXIII.
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Palimpsist, 71
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Pantry, 36
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Paper, 73
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Papias, 105
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Paris, 116;
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Parts of the body, XXIII.
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Pastry-cook, 147
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Paul, the Apostle, 96
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Pauline precept, 141
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Persians, 136, 215
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Persius quoted, 80
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Pestle, 122
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Philip, Prince, xxii., xxvii., xxviii., XX.;
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“the darling of Spain,” 176
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Philosophers, 46
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Physicians and wine, 140
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Pictures, 95
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Pietas literata, ideal of, xlviii.
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Piety, 145
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Plato, 36, 105;
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Plautus quoted, 152, 207
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Play of being king, 175
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Playing with dog, 7
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Pliny, 20, 40, 46, 88, 149
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Points, 2, 23
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Polaemon, 232
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Popularity-hunting, 222
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Pottage, 142
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Prayer, 5;
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Preachers in churches, 225
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Precepts of education, l., XXV.
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Priests and literature, 173
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Principal (gymnasiarcha), 43
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Propugnator, 107
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Pythagoras, 116
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Quills, 70;
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quill-sheath, 70;
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goose-quills, 71;
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hen’s quills, 71;
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making of quill-pens, 71
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Quintilian quoted, 65
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Reading, 18 sqq.
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Recreation, grounds, 87;
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Reeds (pens), 70, 113
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Respect to the old, 237
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Reverence of priests, 237
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Rhetoric, 102
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River, 61, 183
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Rome, 118
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Rope-dancer (funambulus), 51
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Rush-mats, 97
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Saviour, our, quoted, 141
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Scaevola, Mutius, 97
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Scaevolae, 217
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Scholarship ill-esteemed in Belgium, 154
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School, 2, 8, 9, 10, 11, 19;
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School-fees, 10
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Schoolmasters, 9, 15, 36, 122, 123, 136
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Scipio Africanus, 210
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Seal, of letters, 70
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Secretaries to nobles, 70
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Silence before elders and superiors, 238
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Siliceus, literary tutor of Prince Philip, 173
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Sister, Vives’, 201
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Sky, the open, 64
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Slavery of ignorance, 174
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Sluggishness, danger of, 184
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Socrates, 105
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Sophocles, 114
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Spaniards, 92, 104
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Spanish cap, 87
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Spanish inn, 126
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Spanish navigations, 95
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Spanish triumph (in cards), 189
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Spring, 88
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Stakes, 23, 191
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Statues in a house, 96 sqq.
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Statutes of schools enjoining Vives’ Dialogues, xxxiv.
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“Still” wine, 139
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Stories, nineteen, told by students, VIII.
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Stunica, educator of Prince Philip, 173
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Style of Dialogues, xxxvi.
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Styles (pens), 70
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Subject-matter and style of Dialogues, xxxii.
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Suits in cards, names of, 189
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Summer-house, 97
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Sun-dial, 82
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Syracusans, 111
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Tapestry, 97
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Teacher, 54, 101;
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Teachers in Belgium, 154;
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Pandulfus, 56;
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the best living, 179;
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clients of nobles, 223
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Tennis in France and Belgium, 202;
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“Thanks” to a host, 148-9
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Thrashing by teachers, 70
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Tongs, 119
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Trunk, story arising from the, 39
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Truth and flattery at court, 170-1
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Truth-speaking, 241
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Tumbler, the, 51
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Turkey-carpets, 130
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Twins, 43
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Tyrones, 102
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Umpire, 25
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Urbanity, 233
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Ushers’ conversation at school-meal, 35 sqq.
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Valdaura, Margaret, wife of Vives, xi., xxxiii.
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Valencia, city of, XXII.
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Valerius Maximus, 95
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Valla, Laurentius, xx., 47
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Vegetables, selling of, 15
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Vergil, 40, 54, 91, 112, 123, 136
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Vernacular, in education, xlvi.-xlviii.
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Vernacular literature before the Renascence, xviii.
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Verse-maker, Mannius the, 44
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Verse-making, 123
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Vives, J. L., at school at Valencia, ix.;
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his schoolmasters, x.;
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one of the Renascence triumvirate, vii.;
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his parents, vii.-ix.;
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and scholasticism, ix.;
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at Paris, xi.;
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at Bruges, xi.;
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at Louvain, xi.;
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at Lyons, xi.;
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and Princess Mary, xiv.;
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life in London, xv.;
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his wife, Margaret Valdaura, xv.;
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and boys, xxxvii., l.;
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his De Tradendis Disciplinis, vii., x., xvi.;
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his De Institutione Feminae Christianae, viii., xiv.;
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commentary on St. Augustine’s Civitas Dei, xiii.;
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his Introductio ad Sapientiam, xv.;
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his De Officio Mariti, xvi.;
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his De Europae Dissidiis et Bello Turico, xvi.;
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his De Veritate Fidei Christianae, xvi.;
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his De Anima, xvi.
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Vives, J. L., references to himself in the Dialogues: a sufferer from gout, 34;
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names wells in the city of Louvain, 92;
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his verse-writing, 196-7;
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his father’s house in Valencia, 201
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Wainscoting, 97
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Wash-basins, 129
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Washing, 4, 86
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Watch (horologium viatorium), 40
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Water, 92, 141
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Water-drinking, xlv.
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Well, the Latin and the Greek at Louvain, 92
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Whist, French and Spanish, 189
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Wife of a drunkard, 151
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Winding-stairs, 96
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Window-panes, 96
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Windows, wooden and glass, 1
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Wine, 137
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Wine-cellar, 98
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Wine-drinking, xlv.
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Writing, X.;
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usefulness of, 66;
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writing-master, 68
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Writing-tablet, 21
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Xenocrates, 232
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Xenophon, 105, 113
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Zabatta, Angela, learned lady of Valencia, 201
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