(Vol. vii., p. 285.)
On reference to the Peerages of Sir Harris Nicolas and Wood, I feel no
doubt that the father of Lord Spencer Hamilton, as Tee Bee
remarks, was the fifth Duke of Hamilton, and not the third, as Collins
(edition Brydges) states, who misled me. Perhaps the perplexity, if any,
arose from Anne Duchess of Hamilton, the inheritress of the ducal
honours by virtue of the patent of 1643, after the deaths of her father
and uncle s. p. m., having obtained a life dukedom for her husband,
William Earl of Selkirk, and, subsequently to his decease, having
surrendered all her titles in favour of their eldest son, James Earl of
Arran, who was in 1698 made Duke of Hamilton, with the same precedency
of the original creation of 1643, as if he had succeeded thereto.
Sir William Hamilton, the ambassador, married first, Jan. 25, 1752, the
only child of Hugh Barlow, Esq., of Lawrenny in Pembrokeshire, with whom
he got a large estate: she died at Naples, Aug. 25, 1782, and was buried
in Wales. His second lady was Emma Harte, a native of Hawarden in
Flintshire; where her brother, then a bricklayer working for the late
Sir Stephen Glynne, was pointed out to me forty years ago. In Wood's
Peerage it is stated that Sir W. Hamilton's second marriage took place
at London, Sept. 6, 1794: he died in April, 1803, and was buried in
Slebech Church.
I well remember Single-speech Hamilton, who was a fried of the family,
dining with my father when I was a little boy; and I still retain the
impression of his having been a tall and thin old gentleman, very much
out of health. He left a treatise called Parliamentary Logick,
published in 1808. The brief memoir of the author prefixed to the work,
makes no mention of him as a member of the House of Hamilton; but it is
said that he derived his name of Gerard from his god-mother Elizabeth,
daughter of Digby, Lord Gerard of Bromley, widow of James, fourth Duke
of Hamilton, who fell in the duel with Lord Mohun, which looks as if
some affinity was recognised. The same authority tells us that William
Gerard Hamilton was the only child of a Scotch advocate, William
Hamilton, by Hannah Hay, one of the sisters of David Bruce, the
Abyssinian traveller; and that he removed to London, and practised with
some reputation at the English bar. Mr. W. G. Hamilton died, unmarried,
in July, 1796, æt. sixty-eight.
Braybrooke.
Tee Bee has, by his Queries about Sir W. Hamilton, recalled
some most painful reminiscences connected with our great naval hero.
According to the statement in the New General Biographical Dictionary,
Sir William Hamilton was married to his first wife in the year 1755;
but although it is asserted that she brought her husband 5000l.
a-year, her name is not given. She died in 1782, and in 1791 "he married
Emma Harte, the fascinating, mischievous, and worthless Lady Hamilton."
Pettigrew, in his Memoirs of Nelson, says, that this marriage took
place at St. George's, Hanover Square, on the 6th of September, 1791.
Tee Bee will find a full account of Lady H. in the
above-mentioned work of Pettigrew.
F. S. B.
(Vol. vii., p. 177.)
I never heard of our Lord's cross having been made of elder wood. The
common idea, legend, or tradition, that prevailed formerly was, that the
upright beam of the cross was made of cedar, the cross-beam of
cypress, the piece on which the inscription was written of olive,
and the piece for the feet of palm.
The legend concerning the wood of the cross is very curious, and may be
analysed as follows:—When Adam fell sick, he sent his son Seth to the
gate of the garden of Eden to beg of the angel some drops of the oil of
mercy that distilled from the tree of life. The angel replied that none
could receive this favour till five thousand years had passed away. He
gave him, however, a cutting from the tree, and it was planted upon
Adam's grave. It grew into a tree with three branches. The rod of Moses
was afterwards cut from this tree. Solomon had it cut down to make of it
a pillar for his palace. The Queen of Sheba, when she went to visit
Solomon, would not pass by it, as she said it would one day cause the
destruction of the Jews. Solomon then ordered it to be removed and
buried. The spot where it was buried was afterwards dug for the pool of
Bethsaida, and the mysterious tree communicated the power of healing to
the waters. As the time of the Passion of Christ approached, the wood
floated on the surface of the water, and was taken for the upright beam
of the cross. See this curious legend at greater length in the Gospel
of Nicodemus; the Legenda Aurea at the feasts of the Discovery and
Exaltation of the Cross; Curzon's Monasteries of the Levant, p. 163.;
and Didron's Iconography, p. 367., Bohn's edition.
I think, however, that I can explain the origin of the question put to
Rubi by his poor parishioner as to the cross having been made
of elder wood. His question may have sprung from a corruption of an
old tradition or legend regarding not our Saviour, but Judas his
betrayer. Judas is said to have hanged himself on an elder tree. Sir
John Maundeville, in his description of Jerusalem, after speaking of the
Pool of Siloe, adds,
"And fast by is still the elder tree on which Judas hanged
himself for despair, when he sold and betrayed our Lord."—P.
175., Bohn's edit.
To return to the wood of the cross. In Sir John Maundeville's time a
spot was pointed out at Jerusalem as the spot where the tree grew:
"To the west of Jerusalem is a fair church, where the tree of
the cross grew."—P. 175.
and he speaks of the wood of this tree as having once been used as a
bridge over the brook Cedron (p. 176.). Henry Maundrell describes a
Greek convent that he visited, about half an hour's distance from
Jerusalem:
"That which most deserves to be noted in it, is the reason of
its name and foundation. It is because there is the earth that
nourished the root, that bore the tree, that yielded the
timber, that made the cross. Under the high altar you are
shown a hole in the ground where the stump of the tree
stood."—P. 462.
These are some of the legendary traditions regarding the history and
site of the wood of the cross, up to the time of the Passion of Christ.
Ceyrep.
(Vol. vi., p. 292.)
I have been waiting for several months in expectation of seeing some
satisfactory reply to Ursula's Query. It seems, however, that,
in common with myself, your numerous correspondents are quite at a
nonplus. Wood, in his Athenæ Oxoniensis, vol. ii. p. 163., mentions
this Edmund Chaloner as being about nineteen (Ursula says
twenty-one) years old at the death of his father, James Chaloner, in
1660. Wood, Granger, as also Burke in his Extinct Baronetage,
represent James as being the fourth son of Sir Thomas Chaloner of
Gisborough, in the county of York, and this appears to be the general
impression as to his parentage. In a History of Cheshire, however,
written, I believe, by Cowdray, and published in 1791, the author claims
him as a native of that county, and makes him to be of much humbler
birth and descent than any of his other biographers. Hear him in his own
words:
"Our succeeding (Cheshire) collectors form a family harmonic
trio, a father, son, and grandson, of the surname of Chaloner,
and of the several Christian names, Thomas, Jacob, and
James. Thomas was an arms-painter in Chester about 1594; he
knew the value of learning sufficiently to give his son a
better education than he received himself. And this son
followed the same occupation in Chester, and made collections,
about the year 1620. But it was James, the grandson, who
reflected the greatest credit upon his family, by a very
concise, accurate, and sensible account of the Isle of Man,
printed at the end of King's Vale Royal, in 1656. He laid
the foundation of a learned education in our much honoured
college (Brazennoze); and when the parliament invested Lord
Fairfax with the Seignory of Man, he was one of his lordship's
three commissioners for settling the affairs of that island.
The antiquarian collections of all the three Chaloners are
valuable."
Without specially binding myself to either one of these conflicting
testimonies, I may be allowed to suggest that, apart from any proof to
the contrary, the inference that he was a native of Chester is a
perfectly fair and legitimate one. His Short Treatise of the Isle of
Man, which was the only work he ever sent to press, was printed at the
end of that famous Cheshire work, the Vale Royal of England, in 1656,
and was illustrated with engravings by Daniel King, the editor of that
work, himself a Cheshire man. Independent of this, his biographer Wood
informs us that he was "a singular lover of antiquities," and that he
"made collections of arms, monuments, &c., in Staffordshire, Salop, and
Chester," the which collections are now, I believe, in the British
Museum. He made no collections for Yorkshire, nor yet for London, where
he is stated by Wood to have been born. One thing is certain, James
Chaloner of Chester was living at the time this treatise was written,
and was, moreover, a famous antiquary, and a collector for this, his
native county; but whether he was, de facto, the regicide, or merely
his cotemporary, I leave it to older and wiser heads to determine.
T. Hughes.
Chester.
*[In the Harleian Collection, No. 1927., will be found "A
paper Book in 8vo., wherein are contained, Poems, Impreses,
and other Collections in Prose and Verse; written by Thomas
Chaloner and Randle Holme, senior, both Armes-Painters in
Chester, with other Notes of less value."—Ed.]
Mr. Fraser's remark about the word anywhen has brought to my
mind two passages in Shakspeare which have been always hitherto rendered
obscure by wrong printing and wrong pointing. The first occurs in
Measure for Measure, Act IV. Sc. 2., where the Duke says:
"This is a gentle provost: seldom-when
The steeled gaoler is the friend of men."
Here the compound word, signifying rarely, not often, has been
always printed as two words; and Mr. Collier, following others,
has even placed a comma between seldom and when.
The other passage occurs in the Second Part of King Henry IV., Act IV.
Sc. 4.; where Worcester endeavours to persuade the king that Prince
Henry will leave his wild courses. King Henry replies:
"'Tis seldom-when the bee doth leave her comb
In the dead carrion."
Here also the editors have always printed it as two words; and, as
before, Mr. Collier here repeats the comma.
That the word was current with our ancestors, is certain; and I have no
doubt that other instances of it may be found. We have a similar
compound in Chaucer's Knight's Tale, v. 7958.:
"I me rejoyced of my lyberté,
That selden-tyme is founde in mariage."
Palsgrave, too, in his Eclaircissement de la Langue Françoise, 1530,
has—
"Seldom-what, Gueres souvent."
Seldom-when, as far as my experience goes, seems to have passed out of
use where archaisms still linger; but anywhen may be heard any day and
every day in Surrey and Sussex. Those who would learn the rationale of
these words will do well to consult Dr. Richardson's most excellent
Dictionary, under the words An, Any, When, and
Seldom.
This is at least a step towards Mr. Fraser's wish of seeing
anywhen legitimatised; for what superior claim had seldom-when to be
enshrined and immortalised in the pages of the poet of the world?
S. W. Singer.
Manor Place, South Lambeth.
Your correspondent C. affirms, as a mark of the Roman origin of
Chichester, that "the little stream that runs through it is called the
Lavant, evidently from lavando!" Now nobody, as old Camden says, "has
doubted the Romanity of Chichester;" but I am quite sure that the
members of the Archæological Institute (who meet next summer upon the
banks of this same Lavant) would decidedly demur to so singular a
proof of it.
C. is informed that, in the fourth volume of the Archæologia, p. 27.,
there is a paper by the Hon. Daines Barrington, on the term Lavant,
which, it appears, is commonly applied in Sussex to all brooks which are
dry at some seasons, as is the case with the Chichester river.
"From the same circumstance," it is added, "the sands between
Conway and Beaumaris in Anglesey, are called the Lavant
sands, because they are dry when the tide ebbs; as are also
the sands which are passed at low water between Cartmell and
Lancaster, for the same reason."
To trace the origin of the term Lavant, we must, I conceive, go back
to a period more remote than the Roman occupation; for that remarkable
people, who conquered the inhabitants of Britain, and partially
succeeded in imposing Roman appellations upon the greater towns and
cities, never could change the aboriginal names of the rivers and
mountains of the country. "Our hills, forests, and rivers," says Bishop
Percy, "have generally retained their old Celtic names." I venture,
therefore, to suggest, that the British word for river, Av, or Avon,
which seems to form the root of the word Lavant, may possibly be
modified in some way by the prefix, or postfix, so as to give, to the
compound word, the signification of an intermittent stream.
The fact that, amidst all the changes which have passed over the face of
our country, the primitive names of the grander features of nature still
remain unaltered, is beautifully expressed by a great poet recently lost
to us:
"Mark! how all things swerve
From their known course, or vanish like a dream;
Another language spreads from coast to coast;
Only, perchance, some melancholy stream,
And some indignant hills old names preserve,
When laws, and creeds, and people all are lost!"
Wordsworth's Eccles. Sonnets, xii.
W. L. Nichols.
Bath.
The mention of the distinction between the broad and narrow scarf,
alluded to by me (Vol. vii., p. 215.), was made above thirty years ago,
and in Ireland. I have a distinct recollection of the statement as to
what had been the practice, then going out of use. I am sorry that I
cannot, in answer to C.'s inquiry, recollect who the person was who made
it. Nor am I able to specify instances of the partial observance of the
distinction, as I had not till long after learned the wisdom of "making
a note:" but I had occasion to remark that dignitaries, &c. frequently
wore wider scarfs than other clergymen (not however that the narrower
one was ever that slender strip so improperly and servilely adopted of
late from the corrupt custom of Rome, which has curtailed all
ecclesiastical vestments); so that when the discussion upon this subject
was revived by others some years ago, it was one to which my mind had
been long familiar, independently of any ritual authority.
I hope C. will understand my real object in interfering in this subject.
It is solely that I may do a little (what others, I hope, can do more
effectually) towards correcting the very injurious, and, I repeat,
inadequate statement of the Quart. Review for June, 1851, p. 222.
However trifling the matter may be in itself, it is no trifling matter
to involve a considerable portion of the clergy, and among them many who
are most desirous to uphold both the letter and the spirit of the Church
of England, and to resist all real innovation, in a charge of
lawlessness. Before the episcopal authority, there so confidently
invoked, be interposed, let it be proved that this is not a badge of
the clerical order, common to all the churches of Christendom, and
actually recognised by the rules, in every respect so truly Catholic, of
our own Church. The matter does not, I apprehend, admit of demonstration
one way or the other, at least till we have fresh evidence. But to me,
as to many others, analogies seem all in favour of the scarf being such
a badge; and not only this, but the very regulation of our royal
ecclesiastical authorities. The injunctions of Queen Elizabeth, in 1564,
seem to mark the tippet as a distinction between clergymen and laymen,
who otherwise, in colleges and choirs at least, would have none. I also
am strongly of opinion that the tippets mentioned in the 58th and 74th
English canons are the two scarfs referred to: the silken tippet (or
broad scarf) being for such priests or deacons as hold certain offices,
or are M.A., LL.B., or of superior degree; the plain tippet (or narrow
scarf) being for all ministers who are non-graduates (Bachelors of Arts
were not anciently considered as graduates, but rather as candidates for
a degree, as they are still styled in many places abroad); so that all
in orders may have tippets. This notion is confirmed by the fact, that
the scarf was frequently called a tippet in Ireland within memory. And
in a letter, discussing this very subject, in the Gentleman's Mag.
(for 1818, part ii. p. 218.[7]), the testimony of one is given who had
for upwards of fifty years considered the two words as identical, and
had heard them in his youth used indiscriminately by aged clergymen. It
is notorious that in Ireland, time out of mind, tippets have been more
generally worn than hoods in parish churches there. I am not sure
(though I lay no stress on the conjecture) whether this may not have
been in consequence of the option apparently given by the Canons of
wearing either hood or tippet.
It is not correct to restrict the customary use of the scarf to
doctors, prebendaries, and chaplains. In some cathedrals the immemorial
custom has been to assign it to minor canons and clerical vicars also.
At Canterbury, indeed, the minor canons, except otherwise qualified, do
not wear it. (But is not this an exception? Was it always so? And, by
the way, can any cathedral member of old standing testify as to the
customary distinction in his church between the two scarfs, either as to
size or materials?) The very general use of it in towns cannot be
denied.
I may add, that Bishop Jebb used to disapprove of its disuse by country
clergymen. In his Charge he requests that "all beneficed clergymen" of
his diocese "who are Masters of Arts, or of any superior degree, and
who by chaplaincies or otherwise are entitled to the distinction, may
with their surplices wear scarfs or tippets." This apparently was his
construction of the Canons.
John Jebb.
The narrow scarf, called the stole or orarium, is one of the most
ancient vestments used by the Christian clergy, representing in its
mystical signification the yoke of Christ. Though it may be true that
its use is not enjoined by any modern rubric or canon, custom, I think,
fully warrants the clergy in wearing it. What other sanction than custom
is there for the use of bands?
E. H. A.
A great deal of very interesting matter bearing upon this question, both
in an ecclesiastical and antiquarian point of view, though no definite
conclusion is arrived at, will be found in a pamphlet by G. A. French,
entitled The Tippets of the Canons Ecclesiastical.
An Oxford B.C.L.
The following were lines much used when I was at school, and I believe
are still so now:
"This book is mine
By right divine;
And if it go astray,
I'll call you kind
My desk to find
And put it safe away."
Another inscription of a menacing kind was,—
"This book is one thing,
My fist is another;
Touch this one thing,
You'll sure feel the other."
A friend was telling me of one of these morsels, which, considering the
circumstances, might be said to have been "insult added to injury;" for
happening one day in church to have a book alight on his head from the
gallery above, on opening it to discover its owner, he found the
following positive sentence:
"This book doant blong to you,
So puttem doon."
Russell Gole.
The following salutary advice to book-borrowers might suitably take its
position in the collection already alluded to in "N. & Q.":
"Neither blemish this book, or the leaves double down,
Nor lend it to each idle friend in the town;
Return it when read; or if lost, please supply
Another as good, to the mind and the eye.
With right and with reason you need but be friends,
And each book in my study your pleasure attends."
O. P.
Birmingham.
Is not this curious warning worthy of preservation in your columns? It
is copied from a black-letter label pasted to the inside of an old book
cover:
"Steal not this booke, my honest friende,
For fear ye gallows be ye ende;
For if you doe, the Lord will say,
'Where is that booke you stole away?'"
J. C.
To the collection of inscriptions in books commenced by
Balliolensis, allow me to add the following:
"Hic liber est meus,
Testis et est Deus;
Si quis me quærit,
Hic nomen erit."
In French books I have seen more than once,—
"Ne me prend pas;
On te pendra."
An on the fly-leaf of a Bible,—
"Could we with ink the ocean fill,
Were ev'ry stalk on earth a quill,
And were the skies of parchment made,
And ev'ry man a scribe by trade,
To tell the love of God alone
Would drain the ocean dry.
Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
Though stretch'd from sky to sky."
George S. Master.
Welsh-Hampton, Salop.
I beg to subjoin a few I have met with. Some monastic library had the
following in or over its books:
"Tolle, aperi, recita, ne lædas, claude, repone."
The learned Grotius put in all his books,—
"Hugonis Grotii et amicorum."
In an old volume I found the following:
"Hujus si quæris dominum cognoscere libri,
Nomen subscriptum perlege quæso meum."
Philobiblion.
Head-rests.—The difficulty I have experienced in getting my children
to sit for their portraits in a steady position, with the ordinary
head-rests, has led me to design one which I think may serve others as
well as myself; and I therefore will describe it as well as I can
without diagrams, for the benefit of the readers of "N. & Q." It is
fixed to the ordinary shifting upright piece of wood which in the
ordinary rest carries the semicircular brass against which the head
rests. It is simply a large oval ring of brass, about an inch and a half
broad, and sloping inwards, which of the following size I find fits the
back of the head of all persons from young children upwards:—five
inches in the highest part in front, and about four inches at the back.
It must be lined with velvet, or thin vulcanised India rubber, which is
much better, repelling grease, and fitting quite close to the ring. This
is carried forward by a piece of semicircular brass, like the usual
rest, and fixes with a screw as usual. About half the height of the ring
is a steel clip at each side, like those on spectacles, but much
stronger, about half an inch broad, which moving on a screw or rivet,
after the sitter's head is placed in the ring, are drawn down, so as to
clip the head just above the ears. A diagram would explain the whole,
which has, at any rate, simplicity in its favour. I find it admirable.
Ladies' hair passing through the ring does not prevent steadiness, and
with children the steel clips are perfect. I shall be happy to send a
rough diagram to any one, manufacturers or amateurs.
J. L. Sisson.
Edingthorpe Rectory.
Sir W. Newton's Explanations of his Process.—In reply to Mr. John
Stewart's Queries, I beg to state,
First, That I have hitherto used a paper made by Whatman in 1847, of
which I have a large quantity; it is not, however, to be procured now,
so that I do not know what paper to recommend; but I get a very good
paper at Woolley's, Holborn, opposite to Southampton Street, for
positives, at two shillings a quire, and, indeed, it might do for
negatives.
Secondly, I prefer making the iodide of silver in the way which I have
described.
Thirdly, Soft water is better for washing the iodized paper; if,
however, spring water be made use of, warm water should be added, to
raise it to a temperature of sixty degrees. I think that sulphate or
bicarbonate of lime would be injurious, but I cannot speak with any
certainty in this respect, or to muriate of soda.
Fourthly, The iodized paper should keep good for a year, or longer; but
it is always safer not to make more than is likely to be used during the
season.
Fifthly, If I am going out for a day, I generally excite the paper
either the last thing the night before, or early the following morning,
and develope them the same night; but with care the paper will keep for
two or three days (if the weather is not hot) before exposure, but of
course it is always better to use it during the same day.
Wm. J. Newton.
6. Argyle Street.
Talc for Collodion Pictures.—Should any of your photographic friends
wish to transmit collodion pictures through the post, I would suggest
that thin plates of talc be used instead of glass for supporting the
film; I find this substance well suited to the purpose. One of the many
advantages of its use (though I fear not to be appreciated by your
archæological and antiquarian section) is, that portraits, &c., taken
upon talc can be cut to any shape with the greatest ease, shall I say
suitable for a locket or brooch?
W. P.
Headingley, Leeds.
Portrait of the Duke of Gloucester (Vol. vii., p. 258.).—I beg to
inform Mr. Way that he will find an engraving of "The most
hopefull and highborn Prince, Henry Duke of Gloucester, who was borne at
Oatlandes the eight of July, anno 1640: sould by Thos. Jenner at the
South entry of the Exchange," in a very rare pamphlet, entitled:
"The Trve Effigies of our most Illustrious Soveraigne Lord,
King Charles, Queene Mary, with the rest of the Royall
Progenie: also a Compendium or Abstract of their most famous
Genealogies and Pedegrees expressed in Prose and Verse: with
the Times and Places of their Births. Printed at London for
John Sweeting, at the Signe of the Angell, in Pope's Head
Alley, 1641, 4to."
For Henry Duke of Gloucester, see p. 16.:
"What doth Kingdomes happifie
But a blesst Posteritie?
This, this Realme, Earth's Goshen faire,
Europe's Garden, makes most rare,
Whose most royall Princely stemme
(To adorne theire Diadem)
Two sweet May-flowers did produce,
Sprung from Rose and Flower-de-Luce."
Φ.
Richmond, Surrey.
Key to Dibdin's "Bibliomania" (Vol. vii., p. 151.).—There are some
inaccuracies in the list of names furnished by W. P., which may be
corrected on the best authority, namely, that of Dr. Dibdin himself, as
put forth in his "new and improved edition" of the Bibliomania, with a
supplement, "including a key to the assumed characters in the drama,"
8vo., 1842. According to this supplement we are to interpret as follows:
| Alfonso |
Mr. Morell. |
| Gonzalo |
Mr. Jessop. |
| Narcottus |
William Templeman, Esq., of Hare Hatch, Berkshire. |
| Nicas |
Mr. Shaclewell. |
| Philemon |
Mr. Jacobs? |
| Pontevallo |
John Dent, Esq. |
A complete "key" is not furnished; but there is reason, I think, to
doubt a few of the other names in W. P.'s list. Moreover, in the edition
of 1842, several other pseudonymes are introduced, which do not appear
in the list; namely, that of Florizel, for Joseph Haslewood; Antigonus;
Baptista; Camillo; Dion; Ferdinand; Gonsalvo; Marcus; and Philander;
respecting whom some of your readers may possibly enlighten us further.
As to the more obvious characters of Atticus, Prospero, &c., see the
Literary Reminiscences, vol. i. p. 294.
μ.
High Spirits a Presage of Evil ("N. & Q." passim).—In a case lately
detailed in the newspapers, a circumstance is mentioned which appears to
me to come under the above heading.
In the inquiry at the coroner's inquest, on Feb. 10, 1853, concerning
the death of Eliza Lee, who was supposed to have been murdered by being
thrown into the Regent's Canal, on the evening of the 31st of January,
by her paramour, Thomas Mackett,—one of the witnesses, Sarah Hermitage,
having deposed that the deceased left her house in company with the
accused at a quarter-past ten o'clock in the evening of the 31st, said
as follows:
"Deceased appeared in particularly good spirits, and wanted to
sing. Witness's husband objected; but she would insist upon
having her way, and she sang 'I've wander'd by the
Brook-side.'"
The deceased met with her death within half an hour after this.
Cuthbert Bede.
Hogarth's Works.—Observing an inquiry made in Vol. vii., p. 181. of
"N. & Q." about a picture described in Mrs. Hogarth's sale catalogue of
her husband's effects in 1790, made by Mr. Haggard, I am induced to ask
whether a copy of the catalogue, as far as it relates to the pictures,
would not be a valuable article for your curious miscellany? It appears
from all the lives of Hogarth, that he early in life painted small
family portraits, which were then well esteemed. Are any of them known,
and where are they to be seen? Were they mere portraits, or full-length?
Are any of them engraved? I had once a picture, of about that date,
which represented a large house with a court-yard, and a long garden
wall, with a road and iron gate, something like the old wall and road of
Kensington Gardens, with the master, mistress, and dog walking in front
of the house, and evidently portraits. I always suspected it might be by
Hogarth; but I am very sorry to say I parted with it at auction for a
few shillings. It was (say) two feet square: the figures were about four
inches in height, and dressed in the then fashion. I would further ask
if any oil painting or sketches are known of the minor engravings, such
as "The Laughing Audience," "The Lecture," "The Doctors," &c.?
An Amateur.
Town Plough (Vol. vi., p. 462.; Vol. vii., p. 129.).—In Vol vi., p.
462., Gastron notices the Town Plough; and it is again noticed
by S. S. S. (Vol. vii., p. 129.) as never having been seen by him
mentioned in ancient churchwardens' accounts.
Not ten years since there was in the belfry of Caston Church,
Northamptonshire, a large clumsy-looking instrument, the use of which
was not apparent at first sight, being a number of rough pieces of
timber, put together as roughly. On nearer inspection, however, it
turned out to be a plough, worm-eaten and decayed, I should think at
least three times as large and heavy as the common ploughs of the time
when I saw the one in question. I have often wondered at the rudeness
and apparent antiquity of that plough, and whether on "Plough Monday" it
had ever made the circuit of the village to assist in levying
contributions.
I have only for a week or two been in the possession of "N. & Q." when
having accidentally, and for the first time, met with the Number for
that week, I could not resist the temptation of becoming the owner of
the complete series. Under these circumstances, you will excuse me if I
am asking a question which may have been answered long since. What is
the origin of Plough Monday? May there not be some connexion with the
Town Plough? and that the custom, which was common when I was a boy, of
going round for contributions on that day, may not have originated in
collecting funds for the keeping in order, and purchasing, if necessary,
the Town Plough?
Brick.
Shoreditch Cross and the painted Window in Shoreditch Church (Vol.
vii., p. 38.).—I beg to acquaint your correspondent J. W. B. that
although I had long searched for an engraving of Shoreditch Cross, my
labour was lost. The nearest approach to it will be found in a modern
copy of a plan of London, taken in the time of Elizabeth, in which its
position is denoted to be on the west side of Kingsland Road; but, from
records to which I have access, I believe that the cross stood on the
opposite side, between the pump and the house of Dr. Burchell. Most
likely its remains were demolished when the two redoubts were erected at
the London ends of Kingsland and Hackney Roads, to fortify the entrance
to the City, in the year 1642.
The best accounts that I have seen of the painted window are in Dr.
Denne's Register of Benefactions to the parish, compiled in 1745, and
printed in 1778; and Dr. Hughson's History of London, vol. iv. pp.
436, 437.
Henry Edwards.
Race for Canterbury (Vol. vii., pp. 219. 268.).—It is probable that
the lines
"The man whose place they thought to take,
Is still alive, and still a Wake,"
are erroneously written on the print referred to; but I have no doubt
of having seen a print of which (with the variation of "ye think" for
"they thought") is the genuine engraved motto.
B. C.
Lady High Sheriff (Vol. vii., p. 236.).—There is a passage in
Warton's History of English Poetry (Vol. i. p. 194., Tegg's edition)
which will in part answer the Query of your correspondent W. M. It is in
the form of a note, appended to the following lines from the metrical
romance of Ipomydon:
"They come to the castelle yate
The porter was redy there at,
The porter to theyme they gan calle,
And prayd hym go in to the halle,
And say thy lady gent and fre,
That comen ar men of ferre contrè,
And if it plese hyr, we wolle hyr pray,
That we myght ete with hyr to-day."
On this passage Warton remarks:
"She was lady, by inheritance, of the signory. The female
feudatories exercised all the duties and honours of their
feudal jurisdiction in person. In Spenser, where we read of
the Lady of the Castle, we are to understand such a
character. See a story of a Comtesse, who entertains a
knight in her castle with much gallantry. (Mém. sur l'Anc.
Chev., ii. 69.) It is well known that anciently in England
ladies were sheriffs of counties."
To this note of Warton's, Park adds another, which I also give as being
more conclusive on the subject. It is as follow:
["Margaret, Countess of Richmond, was a justice of peace. Sir
W. Dugdale tells us that Ela, widow of William, Earl of
Salisbury, executed the sheriff's office for the county of
Wilts, in different parts of the reign of Henry III. (See
Baronage, vol. i. p. 177.) From Fuller's Worthies we find
that Elizabeth, widow of Thomas Lord Clifford, was sheriffess
of Westmoreland for many years; and from Pennant's Scottish
Tour we learn that for the same county Anne, the celebrated
Countess of Dorset, Pembroke and Montgomery, often sat in
person as sheriffess. Yet Riston doubted of facts to
substantiate Mr. Warton's assertion. See his Obs. p. 10., and
reply in the Gent. Mag. 1782, p. 573.—Park."]
T. C. S.
I can answer part of W. M.'s Query, by a reference to a personage who
could not have been very far from being the first instance of the kind
(Query, was she?).
"About this time (1202) Gerard de Camville, his old and
faithful adherent, was restored by John to the possession of
the honours of which he had been deprived by King Richard; and
it is a remarkable circumstance that, on the death of the said
Gerard, in the eighteenth year of the king's reign, his widow,
Nichola Camville (who is described by an ancient historian as
being 'a martial woman of great courage and address') had the
sheriffalty of the county of Lincoln committed to her; which
honourable and important trust was continued to her by a grant
of Henry III.," &c.
The above quotation is taken from Bailey's Annals of Nottinghamshire,
now publishing in Numbers (Part III. p. 107.). Should I be wrong in
asking correspondents to contribute towards a list of ladies holding the
above honorable post?
Furvus.
St. James's.
Burial of an unclaimed Corpse (Vol. vii., p. 262.).—E. G. R.'s
question is easily answered. The parish of Keswick proved that some
years before they had buried a body found on a piece of land. This was
evidence of reputation that at the time of the burial the land was in
Keswick, otherwise the parishioners would not have taken on themselves
this work of uncalled-for benevolence. The fact of their having incurred
an expense, which, unless the land was in their parish, would have been
the burden of Markshall, satisfied the commissioner that the land must
have belonged to Keswick. I have no doubt this was the reason, though I
never heard of the question in connexion with Keswick and Markshall.
Battersea Rise, I heard when a boy, had formerly belonged to Clapham,
and been given to Battersea for the same reason as E. G. R. states to
have been the cause of Markshall losing its territory to Keswick.
J. H. L.
Surname of Allan (Vol. vii., p. 205.).—I think A. S. A. will find
that this name was introduced into Britain from Normandy. It occurs in
early Norman times as a personal name, and afterwards as a patronymic.
Thus Alan, the son of Flathald, who had the castle of Oswestry granted
him by the Conqueror, had a son, William Fitz-Alan, ancestor of the
great baronial house of Arundel. In the Hundred Rolls, temp. Edward
I., it is very common under the orthographies of fil. Alan, fil.
Alain, Alayn, Aleyn, Aleyne, Aleynes, Aleynys, &c. Allen has
always remained a baptismal name, and hence it is probable that there is
no more affinity between the numerous families now bearing it as a
surname, than between the various Thompsons, Williamses, and others of
this class. The MacAllans of Scotland may have a separate Celtic source,
though it is far likelier that this name (like MacEdward, MacGeorge, and
numerous others) is the English appellative with the patronymic Mac
prefixed.
Mark Antony Lower.
Lewes.
The Patronymic Mac (Vol. vii., p. 202.).—The present Earl of Stair
has collected and printed, under the title of Almacks Extraordinary, a
list of seven hundred Scotch and Irish surnames with the prefix "Mac;"
and a highly esteemed correspondent promises me a supplementary list
of "a few hundreds" of such appellatives, which must therefore be in the
aggregate upwards of a thousand in number. I hope to include all these
in my forthcoming Dictionary of British Surnames.
Mark Antony Lower.
Lewes.
Cibber's "Lives of the Poets" (Vol. v., p. 25.).—When Mr.
Crossley inserted in your pages, at great length, the original
prospectus of Cibber's Lives, he was not aware that it had been
reprinted before. Such, however, is the case, as may be seen by
turning to the sixth volume of Sir Egerton Brydges' Censura Literaria,
ed. 1808, p. 352. It was communicated to the columns of that work by
that diligent antiquary in literary matters, Joseph Haslewood. Mr.
Crossley says, "It is rather extraordinary that none of Dr.
Johnson's biographers appear to have been aware that the prospectus of
Cibber's Lives was furnished by Johnson." Where is there the slightest
proof that Johnson wrote one line of it? Haslewood believed it to have
been the production of Messrs. Cibber and Shiels. Does Mr.
Crossley ground his claim for Johnson merely upon a fancied
resemblance in style?
Edward F. Rimbault.
Parallel Passages, No. 2.—Stars and Flowers (Vol. vii., p.
151.).—Other parallels on this subject are given in "N. & Q." (Vol.
iv., p. 22.), to which may be added the following:
"Silently, one by one, on the infinite meadows of heaven,
Blossom'd the lovely stars, the forget-me-nots of the angels."
Longfellow's Evangeline, Part I. iii. p. 187. of the Liverpool edition.
Zeus.
Schomberg's Epitaph (Vol. vii., p. 13.).—I find this entry in my
note-book:—The following inscription is written on a black slab of
marble, affixed to the wall of the choir of St. Patrick's Cathedral. The
remains of the duke were removed to this cathedral immediately after the
battle of the Boyne; and on the 10th July, 1690, they were deposited
under the altar. The relatives of this great man having neglected to
raise any monument to his memory, Dean Swift undertook and caused the
above slab to be erected, having first vainly applied to the connexions
of the deceased. His sword is in the possession of the society of the
"Friendly Brothers," Dublin.
The following is the inscription on the slab:
"Hic infra situm est corpus Frederici Ducis de Schonberg ad
Bubindam occisi A.D. 1690. Decanus et Capitulum
maximopere etiam atque etiam petierunt, ut hæredes Ducis,
monumentum in memoriam parentis erigendum curarent. Sed
postquam per epistolas, per amicos, diu ac sæpe orando nil
profecere, hunc demum lapidem statuerunt; saltem ut scias
hospes ubinam terrarum Schonbergenses cineres delitescunt.
"Plus potuit fama virtutis apud alienos quam sanguinis
proximitas apud suos, A.D. 1731."
Clericus (D.)
Dublin.
Pilgrimages to the Holy Land (Vol. v., p. 289.).—There is still
another book to be added to the curious list of old pilgrimages to the
Holy Land, furnished by your correspondent Peregrine A. I
derive my knowledge of it from Brunet's Manuel, sub voce
Capodilista (Gabriele), where it is described as follows:
"Itinerario di Terra Santa, e del Monte Sinai." (Without date
or printer) 4to.
It is a journal of a pilgrimage to the Holy Land, made in the year 1458
by a Padua nobleman, accompanied by a relative, Antonio Capodilista, a
canon of the same place, and several other noble personages. It is one
of the earliest productions of the press at Perugia, and the date
assigned to it by M. Brunet is 1472, but by Vermiglioli 1473 or 1474.
The latter authority, in his Principi della Stampa in Perugia, calls
it "Veramente un prezioso cimelio di tipografia e bibliografia." I am
anxious to know where a copy of this very rare work is deposited, as I
have been told that there is none at the British Museum.
W. M. R. E.
Album (Vol. vii., p. 235.).—The origin and the earliest notice of
this kind of friendly memorial book is to be traced to the registers of
the deceased that were formerly kept in every church and monastery. Such
a book was called the album, i. e. the blank book, in which the
names of the friends and benefactors to the church or monastery were
recorded, that they might be prayed for at their decease, and on their
anniversaries. The earliest writer belonging to this country who uses
the word is the Venerable Beda, who in his preface to his prose life of
St. Cuthbert, written previous to the year 721, reminds Bishop Eadfrith
that his name was registered in the album at Lindisfarne, "in albo
vestræ sanctæ congregationis." (Bedæ Opera Minora, p. 47., ed.
Stevenson.) Elsewhere Beda calls this book "the annal" (Hist. Eccles.,
lib. iv. c. 14.). At a later period it was called, both in England and
abroad, the Liber Vitæ, or Book of Life, a name borrowed from St. Paul
(Philippians, iv. 3.).
The earliest specimen of an English album, and perhaps the most elegant
one that this or any other country ever produced, may be seen in the
British Museum (Cotton MSS., Domitian VII.). It is the Album, or Book
of Life, of the monastery of Durham. Nor need we add that this album
affords a relief to the eye wearied with looking over the pages of a
modern album, and to the mind sick of the endless but monotonous
repetition of imaginary ruins, love sonnets, and moss roses.
Ceyrep.
Gesmas and Desmas (Vol. vii., p. 238.).—For the information of your
correspondent A. B. R., I copy the passage referred to by you in the
disputed Gospel of Nicodemus, formerly called the Acts of Pontius
Pilate. The extract is from an English version, printed for William
Hone, Ludgate Hill, 1820:
"But one of the two thieves who were crucified with Jesus,
whose name was Gestas, said to Jesus, If thou art the
Christ, deliver thyself and us."—vii. 10.
"But the thief who was crucified on his right hand, whose name
was Dimas, answering, rebuked him, and said, Dost not thou
fear God, who art condemned to this punishment? We indeed
receive rightly and justly the demerit of our actions; but
this Jesus, what evil hath he done?"—vi. 11.
"After this, groaning, he said to Jesus, Lord, remember me
when Thou comest into Thy kingdom."—vi. 12.
It thus appears the names have been differently received: here they
appear GESTAS the impenitent, and DIMAS
the penitent.
I have a fine old engraving, nineteen inches by fourteen, bearing date
"Greg. Huret, Lugd. inv. et sculp. 1664;" published in Paris, cum priv.
Regis.
The three crosses, with their inscriptions (each in Hebrew, Greek, and
Latin), appear.
The Latin on the cross of the thief on the right hand of our Lord (and,
from the expression of countenance, confessed the penitent) is
DISMAS LATRO: the other is GESTAS
LATRO.
W. C. H.
Chelsea.
"Quod fuit esse" (Vol. vii., p. 235.).—Allow me to suggest the
following meaning of the epitaph in Lavenham churchyard, which is the
subject of A. B. R.'s Query. The word est has evidently been omitted
in the third line: with this restored, the lines will read as a couple
of hexameters:
"Quod fuit esse, quod est; quod non fuit esse, quod esse;
Esse quod (est), non esse; quod est, non est, erit, esse."
And the literal meaning, will be: "What was existence, is that which
lies here; that which was not existence, is that which is existence; to
be what is now, is not to be; that which is now, is not existence, but
will be hereafter."
This, perhaps, is as enigmatical as the original: but the following
lines will render the meaning plainer, though it is difficult to
preserve the brevity of the Latin in an English version:
All that I really was lies here in dust;
That which was death before is life, I trust.
To be what is, is not, I ween, to be;
Is not, but will be in eternity.
H. C. K.
—— Rectory, Hereford.
I think your correspondent A. B. R. is not quite correct in his version
of the epitaph of which he inquires the sense. It is evidently intended
for two hexameter verses, and, as I have heard it, runs thus:
"Quod fuit esse, quod est; quod non fuit esse, quod esse;
Esse quod est, non esse; quod est, non est, erit, esse."
I inclose a similar epitaph in another churchyard (the locale of which
I do not know), which may serve to elucidate its meaning:
"That which a Being was, what is it? show:
That being which it was, it is not now.
To be what 'tis is not to be, you see;
That which now is not shall a Being be."
Q. S.
Straw Bail (Vol. vii., p. 85.).—In connexion with, though not as a
reply to, Mr. Curtis's Query touching the origin of the
expression "A man of straw," I beg to bring under notice a phrase I
heard for the first time a few days ago, but which may nevertheless be
well known to others. A seaman, talking to me of a strike for wages
among the crew of a ship, said that the captain, as the rate of wages
had not been raised, had manned his ship with a "lot of straw-yarders."
On my asking the meaning of the expression, I was told that a
"straw-yarder" was a man about the docks who had never been to sea, and
knew little or nothing of the duties of a seaman.
Brutoniensis.
Pearl (Vol. vi., p. 578.; Vol. vii., pp. 18. 166.).—In the Old
German, merikrioz is pearl; and in the Ang.-Sax. it is
meregreot,—the latter from mere, sea, and greot, grit, sand, or
grot, an atom. These are so similar to the Greek margaritas, and
the margarita of the sister language (Latin), that we may be excused
believing they have a common origin; more especially as we find the
first syllable (at least?) in almost all the cognate Indo-Germanic or
Indo-European languages: Latin, mare; Celt., mor; Gothic, marei;
Sax., mære or mere; Old Germ., meri; Slavon., more and morze;
Swed., mar; Iceland, mar; Esthon., merri; Lett., marrios.
Among modern languages, we have,—Span., margarita; Ital., margarita
and maugherita; Fr., marguerite, but used only in the proverb, "Il
ne faut pas jeter les marguerites devant les pourceaux." Johnson,
Webster, and Halliwell give margarite as an English word. Probably all
derived from the Latin.
At the same time, although not occurring (as far as I am aware) in
either Greek or Latin, the word pearl is found in some shape in most
of the same Indo-Germanic languages: thus, Ital. and Span., perla;
Low. Lat., perla; French, perle; Eng., pearl; Dan., paarl;
Swed., perla or p[)a]rla; Bohem., perle; Ang.-Sax., pearl and
pærl; Low. Sax., berel. Webster says the word pearl may be
radically the same as beryl. In the Celtic we find, Irish, pearla,
and Welsh perlyn.
The Germans derive pearl from beer, a berry, making thus berle or
beerlein; as in Latin bacca also means a pearl.
Some of your correspondents can, no doubt, inform us whether any
analogous words to pearl and margarita exist in the Sanscrit?
A. C. M.
Exeter.
Sermons by Parliamentary Chaplains (Vol. vii., p. 34.).—On the day of
Thanksgiving, 19th July, 1648, Mr. Obadiah Sedgwick was ordered to
preach before the House, and his sermon to be printed. Where can a copy
of it be seen?
Joseph Rix.
St. Neot's.
Etymological Traces of the Social Position of our Ancestors (Vol.
vii., pp. 13, 14.).—Your correspondent may find the passage to which he
wishes to refer again, in one of the back volumes of Dickens's
Household Words, in an article with the title of "History in Words."
Another correspondent, in the succeeding page of the same Number, will
obtain the information he requires by consulting Dunlop's History of
Fiction.
W. L. N.
Tuebeuf (Vol. vii., p. 207.).—J. E. J. will find Tubœuf is a town
in France, in the department of Mayenne. On May 9, 1194, Richard I.
sailed from England on his expedition against Philip II. of France; and
he was accompanied by Master Eustace, Dean of Salisbury, for the purpose
of his conducting such business of the Great Seal as might be necessary
while the king remained abroad. The Doncaster Charter appears to have
been sealed on the 22nd of the same month of May, and I shall feel
obliged if J. E. J. will give me a copy of Eustace's title, and the date
and place, as they appear on the document. The addition to his name in
other charters is "tunc gerentis vices cancellarii." He himself became
Chancellor and Bishop of Ely on the death of Longchamp.
Edward Foss.
Street-End House, near Canterbury.
"Goe, soule, the bodies guest" (Vol. vii., p. 175.).—Your
correspondent is mistaken in thinking that his "additions" are a new
discovery. Both stanzas were printed, with slight variations from this
copy, by Sir H. Nicolas, at the end of his edition of Davison's
Poetical Rhapsody, 1826, pp. 413—415.; and both are mentioned by Mr.
Hannah, when he says (p. 103.):
"In E (the mark by which Mr. H. designates that copy in
Nicolas), one stanza is interpolated after line 36, and a
second at the end."
As I entirely agree with Sir H. Nicolas that the lines in question are
"a wanton interpolation," I think Mr. Hannah was perfectly justified
in contenting himself with this acknowledgment of their existence.
R.
Bells versus Storms (Vol. vi., p. 508.).—While returning my
acknowledgments to your correspondents the Rev. H. T. Ellacombe
and W. S. G., I would briefly refer to the subject again, which may be
of interest to some of our readers.
Dr. Fuller says:
"That bells are no effectual charm against lightning. The
frequent firing of abbey churches by lightning confuteth the
proud motto commonly written on the bells in their steeples,
wherein each intitled itself to a six-fold efficacy.
'Men's death I tell, by doleful knell,
Lightning and thunder, I break asunder,
On Sabbath all, to church I call,
The sleepy head, I raise from bed,
The winds so fierce, I do disperse,
Men's cruel rage, I do assuage.'"
"It has anciently been reported," observes Lord Bacon, "and is
still received, that extreme applauses and shouting of people
assembled in multitudes, have so rarefied and broken the air,
that birds flying over have fallen down, the air not being
able to support them; and it is believed by some that great
ringing of bells in populous cities hath chased away thunder,
and also dissipated pestilent air. All which may be also from
the concussion of the air, and not from the sound."
W. W.
Malta.
The following note in connexion with the baptism of bells may be
interesting, as it shows the manner of working, at that time.
Among the Centum Gravamina offered to Pope Adrian in 1521 by the Princes
of Germany, as given in Herbert's Henry VIII., p. 139., this is the
51st:
"That suffragans used to baptize bels under pretence of
driving away divels and tempests; and for this purpose did
invite many rich godfathers, who were to touch the rope while
the bell was exorcised, and its name invoked (unto which all
the people must answer). And that a banquet was used to be
made thereupon, at the cost of the layicks, amounting in
little towns to a hundred florins, whither the godfathers were
to come, and bring great gifts, &c., whereas they desired that
the said bels might be baptized not onely by suffragans, but
by any priest, with holy water, salt, herbs, without such
costs."
H. T. Ellacombe.
Clyst St. George.
Will Mr. Gole oblige me and your readers with a reference to
the Golden Legend, from which he has sent a quotation bearing on bells
and storms.
H. T. Ellacombe.
Clyst St. George.
Exercise Day (Vol. vii., p. 205.).—The extract from the borough
chamberlain's accounts, referred to by your correspondent
Leicestriensis, relates rather to a religious assembly or
meeting established by authority in the reign of Elizabeth, and designed
as a check on the growing tendency towards Puritanism, which marked that
period. In this diocese (at that time the diocese of Chester) Bishop
Downham instituted a "monthly exercise," which was confirmed by his
successor Dr. Chadderton, in an injunction bearing date Sept. 1, 1585.
(See Appendix to Strype's Annals, vol. i.) It is there decreed that
all parsons, vicars, curates, and schoolmasters shall resort to this
exercise, there either to speak or write; and certain penalties are
enforced on any neglect of its observance. In the churchwardens'
accounts of this parish is an entry of similar import to that quoted by
Leicestriensis: "1656, Pd. for minister diner at the exercise
day, 00.00.06," the only perceptible difference being in the degree of
hospitality extended to the clergy by their entertainers.
John Booker.
Prestwich.
The Iron Mask (Vol. v., p. 474.; Vol. vii., p. 234.).—Your
correspondent A. S. A. asks with much complacency, "What authority
Mr. James Cornish has for asserting (Vol. v., p. 474.) that the
mysterious secret of the Masque de fer has ever been satisfactorily
explained?" Mr. James Cornish does not make statements of
historical facts without authority: he therefore begs to refer A. S. A.
to Delort, Histoire de l'Homme au Masque de fer, Paris, 1825; and to
The True History of the State Prisoner, commonly called "The Iron
Mask," &c., by the Hon. George Agar Ellis: London, 1826.
I repeat "my sanguine" expectations that "Junius" will yet be
"unearthed." "Matthias" made an equal boast with the "mighty shade,"
that he would be for ever unknown.
Your Journal "N. & Q." has left no doubt about the author of The
Pursuits of Literature.
James Cornish.
Shakspeare's Use of the Word "Delighted" (Vol. ii., pp. 113. 139. 200.
&c.).—The following passage from Douce's Illustrations has not been
referred to by any of your contributors on this point; to some it may be
unknown:
"With respect to the much contested and obscure expression of
bathing the delighted spirit in fiery floods, Milton appears
to have felt less difficulty in its consideration than we do
at present; for he certainly remembered it when he made Comus
say:
"' ... one sip of this
Will bathe the drooping spirits in delight
Beyond the bliss of dreams.'"
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
Samuel Daniel (Vol. vi., p. 603.).—A copy of an original letter of
Samuel Daniel, sent to Lord Keeper Egerton with a present of his Works
newly augmented, 1601, is printed in Censura Literaria, ed. 1808,
vol. vi. p. 391.
John Daniel, who published Songs for the Lute, Viol, and Voice, 1606,
is supposed to have been the brother of the poet, and the publisher of
his works in 1623. He was of Christ Church, Oxford; and took his degree
of Bachelor of Music in 1604. At the commencement of the reign of
Charles I., he was one of the court musicians, and his name occurs among
the "Musicians for the Lutes and Voices," in a privy seal, dated Dec.
20, 1625, exempting the musicians belonging to the court from the
payment of subsidies.
John Daniel's Songs were "printed by T. E. for Thomas Adams, at the
Signe of the White Lyon, Paule's Church Yard, folio, 1606." They are
dedicated, in rhyme, to "Mrs. Anne Greene, the worthy Daughter to Sir
William Greene, of Milton, Knight."
Edward F. Rimbault.
English Bishops deprived by Queen Elizabeth, 1559 (Vol. vi., pp. 100.
203.; Vol. vii., p. 260.).—I regret that I am unable to furnish A. S.
A. with any additional information respecting the Marian bishops. None
of the authorities I used give the dates he requires. Possibly, Mr.
Charles Butler's Historical Memoires of the English, Irish, and
Scottish Catholics, 4 vols. 8vo., 1822, might answer his Queries.
I have ascertained from Calamy's Life and Times (vol. i. p. 409.),
that Thomas White, the deprived Bishop of Peterborough, died in London,
May 30, 1698; and that Robert Frampton, the deprived Bishop of
Gloucester, died May 25, 1708 (vol. ii. p. 119.).
John I. Dredge.
"Jenny's Bawbee" (Vol. vii., p. 207.).—This is a very old song, a
fragment of which (all we have) appeared in David Herd's Collection of
Ancient and Modern Scottish Songs, 2 vols. 12mo., Edinb. 1776. As it is
very short, I quote it:
"An' a' that e'er my Jenny had,
My Jenny had, my Jenny had,
A' that e'er my Jenny had,
Was ae bawbee.
"There's your plack, and my plack,
An' your plack, an' my plack,
An' my plack, an' your plack,
An' Jenny's bawbee.
"We'll put it a' in the pint-stoup,
The pint-stoup, the pint-stoup,
We'll put it in the pint-stoup,
And birle't a' three."
There is a capital song founded upon this rude fragment, by the late Sir
Alexander Boswell. It was published anonymously in 1803, and commences
thus:
"I met four chaps yon birks amang,
Wi hinging lugs and faces lang;
I spier'd at neebour Bauldy Strang,
Wha's they I see?
"Quo' he, Ilk cream-fac'd pawky chiel
Thought he was cunning as the diel,
And here they cam' awa to steal
Jenny's bawbee."
Copies of this latter song may be seen in Johnson's Scottish Musical
Museum, edit. 1839, vol. v. p. 435.; and in Graham's Songs of
Scotland, 1848, vol. ii. p. 48.
Edward F. Rimbault.
The old Scotch ballad with the above title, on which Sir Alexander
Boswell, Bart., founded his humorous song, with the same name, may be
found in The Book of Scottish Songs, recently published in The
Illustrated London Library, p. 229.
J. K. R. W.
Irish Convocation (Vol. vi., p. 317.).—I am unable to answer W.
Fraser's Queries as to when the Irish Convocation last met, and
where their deliberations are recorded; but that gentleman will find
some account of its nature and constitution in a recently published
pamphlet, entitled The Jerusalem Chamber, by the Rev. H. Caswall,
M.A., pp. 39, 40.
J. C. B.
Spontaneous Combustion (Vol. vii., p. 286.).—Is there such a thing;
meaning, I presume, of the human body? One of the latest and best
authenticated cases is given in The Abstainer's Journal (Glasgow), No.
III., March, 1853, p. 54. In the narrative is included the official
medical report from the Journal of Medical Science, Dec. 1852.
W. C. Trevelyan.
Do the Sun's Rays put out the Fire? (Vol. vii., p. 285.).—
"Why does the sun, shining, on a fire, make it dull, and often
put it out?
"1st. Because the air (being rarefied by the sunshine) flows
more slowly to the fire; and
"2ndly. The chemical action of the sun's rays is detrimental
to combustion.
"The sun's rays are composed of three parts; lighting,
heating, and actinic or chemical rays. These latter interfere
with the process of combustion."
The above is an extract from Rev. Dr. Brewer's Guide to the Scientific
Knowledge of Things Familiar, 6th edition, p. 50., which may perhaps
prove interesting to C. W. B. At p. 58. of the same book, H. A. B. will
find, I think, an answer in the affirmative to his Query (Vol. vii., p.
286.): "Is there such a thing as spontaneous combustion?"
C—— S. T. P.
W—— Rectory.
Dover Castle (Vol. vii., p. 254.).—The "j cenovectorum cum j rota
ferro ligata" was a wheel-barrow. In the Promptorum Parvulorum occurs
(p. 25.) "barowe cenovectorum."
E. G. R.
Quotations wanted (Vol. vii., p. 40.).—"And if he read little, he had
need have much cunning to seem to know that he doth not." From Lord
Bacon.—Bacon's Essays: Of Studies, p. 218. 12mo., 1819.
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